Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Neomochtherus cf melanopus; Reinoud

Posted by Andre Burgers on 17-05-2010 08:49
#1

A rather big fly on Pinus pinaster.

Is it possible to ID beyond family level?

Edited by Andre Burgers on 14-11-2010 21:55

Posted by paqui on 19-05-2010 00:21
#2

Hi, I´ve no idea, but here you are the Asilidae forum for the next ones: http://www.dipter...forum_id=2
Regards Andre :)

Edited by paqui on 19-05-2010 00:22

Posted by Andre Burgers on 28-05-2010 10:34
#3

paqui wrote:
Hi, I´ve no idea, but here you are the Asilidae forum for the next ones: http://www.dipter...forum_id=2
Regards Andre :)


Thanks Paqui. I did not know that there was a special forum for this group.

Saludos

Posted by Quaedfliegh on 31-05-2010 20:50
#4

Reminds me of Machimus, maybe M. atripes....:|

Posted by Andre Burgers on 06-11-2010 17:40
#5

Leptogaster wrote:
Reminds me of Machimus, maybe M. atripes....:|


Missed your post, Lepto.

Thanks for your ID, although there is no count of the species you mention in Spain.

Bedankt, Lepto.:)

Posted by Quaedfliegh on 08-11-2010 20:56
#6

Also have a look at Neomochtherus melanopus. It is very difficult to determine species from a single picture. Keys are hardly applicable this way. Best bet is a local expert or real one:)

Edited by Quaedfliegh on 08-11-2010 20:59

Posted by Andre Burgers on 09-11-2010 09:42
#7

Leptogaster wrote:
Also have a look at Neomochtherus melanopus. It is very difficult to determine species from a single picture. Keys are hardly applicable this way. Best bet is a local expert or real one:)


Thanks for taking your time, Reinoud.:)

I will consider this species too, but I know the extreme difficulties using photos as only means in ID.:|

Is there a cientific name for "Machinus group"?

Thanks anyway,
André

Posted by Quaedfliegh on 09-11-2010 19:42
#8

Andre Burgers wrote:
[quote]Leptogaster wrote:
Is there a cientific name for "Machinus group"?

Thanks anyway,
André


I think the group consists of: Machimus + Tolmerus and Neoepitriptus. Maybe there are more genusses (what happened to Epitriptus for instance) let an expert react too. These genusses are very similar in appearance and form a group because of it. Probably it will not end here. Research is going on.

Edited by Quaedfliegh on 09-11-2010 19:43

Posted by Andre Burgers on 10-11-2010 09:02
#9

Leptogaster wrote:
Andre Burgers wrote:
[quote]Leptogaster wrote:
Is there a cientific name for "Machinus group"?

Thanks anyway,
André


I think the group consists of: Machimus + Tolmerus and Neoepitriptus. Maybe there are more genusses (what happened to Epitriptus for instance) let an expert react too. These genusses are very similar in appearance and form a group because of it. Probably it will not end here. Research is going on.


Bedankt Reinoud.:)

So things are much too complicated for me. Thanks for your list of genera;) to be taken into acount.

André

Posted by Quaedfliegh on 10-11-2010 15:11
#10

André, to make things worse:D ,please note that i am now more convinced that it is a Neomochtherus cf melanopus. Neomochtherus is not part of the Machimus group!

Edited by Quaedfliegh on 13-11-2010 00:41

Posted by Andre Burgers on 11-11-2010 09:40
#11

Leptogaster wrote:
André, to things worse:D ,please note that i am now more convinced that it is a Neomochtherus cf melanopus. Neomochtherus is not part of the Machimus group!


Reinoud,

Thanks again. I will store this one as Neomochtherus cf melanopus until further notice.;)

Groeten,
andré