Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Tachinidae 01.08.2006 (2)

Posted by Dmitry Gavryushin on 02-08-2006 11:40
#1

Ozhigovo station, Naro-Fominsk district, Moscow region.
Size 7mm.
Gymnosoma?

Posted by Dmitry Gavryushin on 02-08-2006 11:40
#2

A dorsal view.

Posted by Dmitry Gavryushin on 02-08-2006 11:41
#3

The head.

Posted by ChrisR on 02-08-2006 16:14
#4

Yes, definitely a Gymnosoma - but over to Theo to tell us which one ;)

Posted by Dmitry Gavryushin on 02-08-2006 17:48
#5

OK let's wait for Theo :)

Posted by Zeegers on 02-08-2006 21:56
#6

To quote Duran Duran freely "Males on film !'
Females are so much easier in Gymnosoma.

Anyway, this is again either a male of nudifrons or rotundatum, and my strong impression is that is nudifrons.

The border between the golden dust in front of thorax and black hind part just reaches the suture, which would be the critical feature.

In males, that is.


Theo

Posted by Dmitry Gavryushin on 03-08-2006 08:34
#7

Thanks a lot Theo - any more fundamental differences between the two? - maybe genitalia? - once I managed to do it (with Eurithia).

Posted by Zeegers on 03-08-2006 19:00
#8

No, no other differences in males.
Actually, the distinction between males is in my opinion not 100 %.
Females, however, are clearly distinct and both species have different distributional pattern, so there is no doubt that 2 good species are involved.
The genus Gymnosoma is badly in need of a full revision.

Theo

Posted by Dmitry Gavryushin on 04-08-2006 00:10
#9

I see - thanks Theo.