Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Hymenoptera (Tenthredinidae/Sawfly), but which one?

Posted by waso on 17-01-2010 23:45
#1

Hello,

I made this pictures of a Sawfly (I guess it's one) at 13.05.2008 in Germany close by a small lake.
The length of the insect was app. 8mm.
I guess the ID will be extremely difficult but maybe at least the familiy can be confirmed.

Thanks in advance!

Wahrmut

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By wahrmut at 2010-01-17

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By wahrmut at 2010-01-17

Posted by Jose Luis RC on 18-01-2010 15:11
#2

Hello: I think it Dolerus, sp. Subgenera (Poodolerus). Regards

Posted by waso on 19-01-2010 04:52
#3

Hello Jose Luis,

thanks for your help!

I was searching the web for pictures of Poodolerus but I couldn't find almost nothing.
Do you have any links or hints?

Cheers

Wahrmut

Posted by cthirion on 19-01-2010 21:33
#4

Poodolerus Zhelochovtsev, 1988

P. nigratus (MUELLER, 1776) B)

Posted by waso on 19-01-2010 23:23
#5

cthirion wrote:
Poodolerus Zhelochovtsev, 1988

P. nigratus (MUELLER, 1776) B)

Thank you too!
I really would like to see comparable images of this dolerus.
Do you have any link for the web?
Or do you ID insects by books?

Posted by cthirion on 20-01-2010 00:01
#6

http://www.bioimages.org.uk/html/t103485.htm

Posted by waso on 20-01-2010 00:33
#7

cthirion wrote:
http://www.bioimages.org.uk/html/t103485.htm

Hmm, I can't find pictures of Dolerus nigratus there, guess I'm too blind.
But I found one here:
http://www.digitale-naturfotos.de/galerie/insekten-bienen-wespen-hummeln-hymenoptera.php?16&zoom_highlightsub=blattwespe++dolerus+nigratus