Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Which Ichneumonidae<Possibly extinct now.

Posted by Roger Thomason on 24-06-2009 13:45
#1

Photographed in the garden this morning. Can this one be taken to species level?

I know they are hard from photo's..

Edited by Roger Thomason on 23-09-2009 17:12

Posted by cthirion on 29-06-2009 11:15
#2

To wait, please, they is the holidays for my correspondents! ;)

Posted by cthirion on 29-06-2009 15:34
#3

Please,locality, size, date?;)

Posted by Roger Thomason on 29-06-2009 18:07
#4

Hi Camille,
As stated in the first post/Location at Avatar.
Mossbank, Shetland Isles to the North of Scotland.
Size is about 10-12mm ish.
There are quite a few still in the garden on Foxglove Plants (Digitalis).
Regards Roger

Edit; I think I may have overestimated the size of this thing ;)...8-10mm more accurate I think????
EDIT No.2
Size is more like 6mm Well I got the mm's written properly...a bit out with the number :|.

Edited by Roger Thomason on 23-09-2009 17:57

Posted by cthirion on 04-08-2009 22:28
#5

Female Cryptinae,Valemberg cannot say some more either, torn wings or brachypterous?

Posted by Roger Thomason on 05-08-2009 12:27
#6

Thanks Camille,
I have other photo's of this one which show that the wings are just very short and not torn, and that it does fly for short distances in the undergrowth. There is a very similar one posted here under the title Ichneumon again with longer wings....same Family???
Regards Roger

Edited by Roger Thomason on 05-08-2009 12:28

Posted by cthirion on 10-08-2009 16:41
#7

I had doubts, and I do not study Phaeogenini, I asked Schwarz and he says also Ichneumoninae Phaeogenini!
Afflicted for the false track! :|

Posted by Roger Thomason on 11-08-2009 18:56
#8

Thanks for that Camille :).

Posted by cthirion on 17-08-2009 13:19
#9

Hellon Roger,


"Good morning Camille,
this is a interesting Phaeogenini. I hope you have the species.
Have a nice day!
Erich Diller"

Posted by Roger Thomason on 17-08-2009 15:15
#10

If he means by that..Did I collect it, the answer is no, and I haven't seen any more for some time now :|.

Regards Roger

EDIT.
Found one this afternoon.Or at least it looks the same with short wings....size is about 6mm, I have it in a container, still alive ;).

Edited by Roger Thomason on 17-08-2009 18:08

Posted by cthirion on 18-08-2009 13:26
#11

Send a photograph if possible, it will have to be put out of alcohol in a small tube!
I will give you the address of DILLER in PM!

Thanks, Friendly!

Posted by Roger Thomason on 18-08-2009 17:48
#12

"CAMILLE WE HAVE A PROBLEM"
I'm afraid my specimen is no more...:|. Today being Garbage Collection Day...:|.need I say more... I will have to look for another one :| Still the town of Lerwick, Waste to Heat System will have benefited for a microsecond ( hope that's the right terminology, don't want Jorge on my case again).
Roger :|.

I took a couple of photo's of it though...will email them if that's OK. Can't get another posting here for a couple of days.

Edited by Roger Thomason on 23-09-2009 17:58

Posted by cthirion on 23-09-2009 15:01
#13

Dear Camille,

I think the Phaeogenini species by Roger is a new species. I have never seen a red one with short wings. It`s a beautiful species.
Best regards!

Erich
DILLER

Posted by Roger Thomason on 23-09-2009 16:51
#14

OH SHIT :D:D:D
Hope it wasn't the last one....:| And that the town of Lerwick appreciated the small amount of heat it provided.
Will have to look for it in the garden again...weather is wet and windy so next week at earliest.
If it is a new species it will have to get a name I suppose..I suggest Crematedus plonkerii in honour of the Plonker who managed to lose it. ME.
Regards Roger

Other names for this one are invited....keep it clean :D

Edited by Roger Thomason on 23-09-2009 18:01

Posted by phil withers on 24-09-2009 00:08
#15

Try putting out a water trap: that will work even when you don't (that is to say also at night: not wishing to malign your good name)

Posted by Roger Thomason on 24-09-2009 08:38
#16

phil withers wrote:
Try putting out a water trap: that will work even when you don't (that is to say also at night: not wishing to malign your good name)


Maybe a bit late in the season up here..but will give it a try.

What good name?

Regards Roger

24/09/09 07.42 Hrs Local< got the old 666 views Jorge...Devil of a thread this :P.

Edited by Roger Thomason on 24-09-2009 08:42