Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Dark veined Sphaeroceridae (06.02.09)

Posted by Juergen Peters on 08-02-2009 23:00
#1

Hello!

Is it possible to give an ID? At house wall, northwest Germany, length about 3 mm. Thanks in advance!

Posted by Juergen Peters on 08-02-2009 23:00
#2

Pic #2

Posted by Juergen Peters on 11-02-2009 21:37
#3

Hello!

I did not have much hope about the other Sphaerocerids,
ttp://www.diptera...d_id=19564
http://www.dipter...d_id=19563
but I thought that these dark veins were rather distinctive...

Posted by Tony Irwin on 11-02-2009 22:45
#4

Hi Juergen - I'm not sure about the species, but the appearance of the wings suggests that this is a freshly emerged individual, and it is possible that the wings will change in colour as it matures. I would expect that the milky (pale grey) colour will disappear, and that the dark shading might spread so that most of the wing membrane is darkened.

Posted by javanerkelens on 11-02-2009 23:01
#5

I see many photo's of Sphaeroceridae on Diptera.info that are not identified.
What is important to take photo's of...legs or wings or something else, to get maybe an identification..of genus or species?
Or are they even whit good photo's difficult....

Joke :)

Posted by Juergen Peters on 11-02-2009 23:31
#6

Hello, Tony and Joke!

Thanks for your comments. If it was a freshly emerged individual, then there were several of them at the wall. They looked rather similar as the frequent Lotophila atra, often found in the last weeks, but were smaller and had those distinctive wings. Therefore I thought of a concrete different species.

Posted by Paul Beuk on 12-02-2009 11:51
#7

What you'd need to identify Sphaeroceridae from pictures? Well, many setae on different parts of the body and legs, sometimes pollinosity, often also genitalia. Main problem: dark flies with dark setae leave the necessary setae indistinguishable quite often, if focus is slightly off, then it is getting neigh impossible to say much more than subfamily or group of genera.