Thread subject: Diptera.info :: redish-wine eyes

Posted by Robert Heemskerk on 25-05-2006 23:02
#1

Hello flyforum,

No, I didn't drink to much.., I found some flies with 'redwine' colored-eyes.
These kind of flies I didn't see before this year.
I think it are Phaonia sp., maiby rufiventris?

eyes nice oval-rounded and
dark-red
femur and tibia yellow(braun), thorax and scutellum yellow(braun)
eyes close together(male?)
no sharp corners in M1 vein in the wing

greeting, Robert

Edited by Robert Heemskerk on 04-02-2007 00:04

Posted by Robert Heemskerk on 25-05-2006 23:02
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Edited by Robert Heemskerk on 25-05-2006 23:03

Posted by Robert Heemskerk on 25-05-2006 23:03
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Edited by Robert Heemskerk on 25-05-2006 23:03

Posted by Robert Nash on 26-05-2006 09:59
#4

Robert Muscidae. Nice pictures:p. Second is gallery material:p:p I'll try for a species later Phaonia perhaps but we'll see.Robert (again)

Edited by Robert Nash on 26-05-2006 10:00

Posted by Kahis on 26-05-2006 11:10
#5

In my reference collection this matches only Phaonia subventa (Harris).

EDIT: Phaonia rufiventris is also close, but it has a darker, less striped thorax and very narrow black bands across the abdomen on the margins of tergites.

Edited by Kahis on 26-05-2006 15:08

Posted by Susan R Walter on 26-05-2006 11:40
#6

I thought P subventa had a dark median stripe down the abdomen. Does this mean it is a variable feature, or have Nikita and I identified our specimens incorrectly?

Posted by Robert Nash on 26-05-2006 11:40
#7

In my collection too (some verified by Adrian Pont:p) it is subventa though it's called variegata (Meigen, 1826) the old but not older name for Phaonia subventa (Harris, 1780).Very narrow black bands. I'll try for photographs to illlustrate both of Kahis very well observed characters especially the abdomen bands.Only some specimens have the dark median stripe mentioned by Susan which I too thought might be a character. These flies are very difficult without chaetotaxy (see glossary soon).
Robert

Edited by Robert Nash on 26-05-2006 11:47