Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Lucilia male and female

Posted by ekhohe on 05-09-2008 19:46
#1

Are these possible to id? Finland, Lappeenranta, august, not collected.

Posted by ekhohe on 05-09-2008 19:47
#2

Second

Posted by ekhohe on 05-09-2008 19:47
#3

Third

Posted by Susan R Walter on 05-09-2008 20:29
#4

Maybe Lucilia caesar, with a big question mark. I am not totally convinced they are the same species either.

Posted by ekhohe on 05-09-2008 20:43
#5

Another female photo, same fly.

Posted by Susan R Walter on 05-09-2008 21:53
#6

Nice wide frons, lots of longish hairs on the underside of the arista both support caesar, but there is still a question mark. I'd like to get a good clear look at all three tibia and a dorsal view of the thorax.

Posted by ekhohe on 06-09-2008 15:26
#7

Thanks Susan, I tried to take dorsal views, but they all were out of focus in windy condition. I have more photo's from same flower, but they might be from different female and not enough different angles. I have some more to show in time, if you still like to play with these Lucilia's.:)

Posted by Susan R Walter on 06-09-2008 16:28
#8

Henry - you may as well load them up and I'll take a look :)

Posted by ekhohe on 06-09-2008 17:36
#9

Okay, two more female shots from same flower.

Posted by ekhohe on 06-09-2008 17:37
#10

Second.

Edited by ekhohe on 06-09-2008 17:38

Posted by Susan R Walter on 06-09-2008 18:32
#11

I think it is either caesar or illustris, but I don't have enough experience to be confident which. I note that Rognes says that caesar is much more synanthropic in the south of Finland, and closer to the northern edge of its range, whereas in the north it is illustris that is the more synanthropic.