Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Cylindromyia from Spain

Posted by Rui Andrade on 24-08-2008 23:39
#1

I found this Cylindromyia, what species could it be?

location: Sanxenxo, Spain
date: 24/08/2008

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Posted by Zeegers on 25-08-2008 20:50
#2

The wing venation is odd.
I'm not even sure it is Cylindromyia.


Theo

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 25-08-2008 21:16
#3

very odd, I would say! :o

Posted by ChrisR on 25-08-2008 21:18
#4

What a strange fly ... related to Cylindromyia, but that petiole is very unusual :o The artista is very odd too... I have no idea what it could be if it isn't Cylindromyia :(

Posted by Rui Andrade on 25-08-2008 22:43
#5

Thank you guys! when I saw the fly on the photos I instantaneously noticed the strange petiole. If it's not a Cylindromyia what could it be:o? Now I'm very curious about it.

Posted by Zeegers on 26-08-2008 18:22
#6

Cylindromyia has 2 rather typical features
* palpi absent
* behind coxae complete chitinised bridge

So if it was collected....

Any indication of its size ?


Theo

Posted by Rui Andrade on 26-08-2008 22:54
#7

Yes, I collected the fly. The size is about 6 mm.

Some photos:

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Posted by ChrisR on 27-08-2008 00:52
#8

I can't see palps but they might just be very small - needs putting on a pin (never manipulate a specimen without mounting it first) and then looking at under a microscope. The bridge on the hind coxae is only visible with a ventral angle - and a little posterior too. :)

Posted by Zeegers on 27-08-2008 20:30
#9

STOP

Look at the arista: it is distinctly broadened towards the tip.
That settles it inmediately:

Male Cylindromyia pusilla.

The 6 mm. supports this.
I had guessed it was more like 12 mm.
Therefore I did not consider pusilla.


Yet another succesful ID with Rui's help



Theo



Posted by Rui Andrade on 28-08-2008 19:16
#10

Fantastic:D!! Thank you very much Theo and Chris.