Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Another Phaonia?
Posted by Josef Buecker on 10-08-2008 09:57
#1
Hello Forum,
the following two pictures are taken on August 4th 2008 in Hagen, NRW, Germany in the near of an alder marshland, 175 msm, the plant is Cirsium arvense.
Is it a Phaonia spec.? Is an ID possible?
Best regards, Josef
Posted by Josef Buecker on 10-08-2008 09:59
#2
Second picture
Posted by Susan R Walter on 10-08-2008 13:02
#3
This is Calliphoridae. I suspect it is
Pollenia, but might be
Bellardia or
Melinda.
Definitely not Phaonia - vein M is bent.
Posted by Josef Buecker on 10-08-2008 20:37
#4
Thank you Susan. Best wishes,
Josef
Posted by Xespok on 11-08-2008 10:14
#5
This is not Pollenia. Around Melinda/Onesia/Bellardia.
Posted by Susan R Walter on 11-08-2008 21:28
#6
I opted for Pollenia because I thought the strongly tessellated abdomen was more reminiscent of Pollenia than M/O/B, even though I could see no sign of wavy golden hair on the thorax. What are your reasons for going the other way Gabor? You have a better eye than me for these species I think.
Posted by Xespok on 12-08-2008 12:40
#7
There are two reasons. First the abodmen has a distinct greenish metallic shine, which Pollenia sp do not have. Second, the thoracic pattern is off for most Pollenia, and as you mentioned there is no golden hair to be seen.