Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Wingless Hymenoptera, March 2008, Hungary
Posted by Xespok on 23-06-2008 13:05
#1
Can someone tell me something about this tiny wasp.
Posted by Xespok on 23-06-2008 13:06
#2
Another view of the same animal.
Posted by ChrisR on 23-06-2008 13:31
#3
I first thought it looked like a braconid but the long first antennal segments suggest a chalcidoid perhaps, but I'm not sure which family it could be within that. :)
Posted by cthirion on 30-06-2008 23:19
#4
Chalcidoidea, Eupelmidae.
Eupelmus sp sous-genre Macroneura.
Jean-Luc Vago (France)
Posted by Xespok on 01-07-2008 23:16
#5
Thx Camille and Jean-Luc.
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 01-07-2008 23:18
#6
I love Eupelmidae along with Mutillidae! :)
Posted by Gerard Pennards on 01-07-2008 23:32
#7
Well, I don't want to spoil the party, but it doesn't seem like an Eupelmid to me! As the sister group of Encyrtidae they should have an enlarged second leg, tibia and tars with a larger spine at the end of the tibia. I know the genus, in the key of Peck, Boucek and Hoffer (1964) it is listed as genus Eupelmella.
I see them sometimes in the samples at work, and one of the characteristics is the abruptly bent upwards distal part of the wing stump. I don't see that in this animal. It has stumps, but in Eupelmella these are bigger and the bent upwards distal part is clearly visible,not like in this one.
My idea about this would be more like family Eulophidae!
Greetings,
Edited by Gerard Pennards on 01-07-2008 23:35
Posted by Paul Beuk on 02-07-2008 08:27
#8
I don't want to spoil your party either but I think I can see five tarsal segments in the top picture, so not Eulophidae. :P
Posted by cthirion on 02-07-2008 15:55
#9
It is of my fault, I had not sent the photograph where the tarses in detail are seen. :(
I returned for opinion again!
Posted by Christian Schmid-Egger on 02-07-2008 17:17
#10
Hannes Baur, Bern, identified it as the Pteromalide Cea pulicaris Walker, 1837. He also wrote that it is an "unusual" Pteromalid.
Regards, Christian
Posted by Gerard Pennards on 02-07-2008 18:39
#11
Well yeah Paul,
As you can see it was late! :D:D
Didn't count tarsal number, just remembered Euepelmella looks very different,.
But indeed Pteromalidae fits it much better, even a bit unusual one!
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 02-07-2008 19:29
#12
a very unusual pteromalid, indeed!! :o
Posted by Xespok on 04-07-2008 17:23
#13
Thx for everyone for the identification. I'll switch to Christian's forum to post Hymenoptera querries in the future.
Posted by cthirion on 13-07-2008 18:30
#14
I went a little quickly in my determination of the apterous chalcidien. It is not a question indeed of Eupelmidae as I had considered pr?cedemment but I agree with Hannes Baur for Pteromalidae Cea pulicaris. ;)
Vago J.L.