Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Sinai. Muscidae?
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 11-02-2006 21:27
#1
Not common, 7-9mm.
Posted by Zeegers on 12-02-2006 19:19
#2
Anthomyia pluvialis or cousin
Theo Zeegers
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 13-02-2006 19:58
#3
Thank you Theo. Yes, this time it seems to me even visible that A go till wing margin. But I thought, what the hell Anthomyiidae in desert without flowers?
Posted by Zeegers on 14-02-2006 09:33
#4
Oke, I can tell you that.
Anthomyia pluvialis is a man-following species: everywhere where man lives, you see Anthomyia. That is, certainly in the subtropics.
Probably the larvae occur in man's garbage, like kitchen litter.
Theo
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 14-02-2006 21:33
#5
Thank you Theo.
According my key (Diptera of Eur Russ), rather cousin than Anthomyia pluvialis.
Scutellum grey with black spots - A. pluvialis,
Scutellum black with grey top - A. procellaris, which is the case, I think.
Posted by Zeegers on 15-02-2006 20:06
#6
Right
Thanks for pointing that out.
Theo
Posted by Dima DD on 19-02-2006 04:56
#7
Nikita Vikhrev wrote:
According my key (Diptera of Eur Russ), rather cousin than Anthomyia pluvialis.
Scutellum grey with black spots - A. pluvialis,
Scutellum black with grey top - A. procellaris, which is the case, I think.
Nikita,
the first photo of Anthomyia pluvialis in the gallery (male) has got black scutellum with grey top, isn't it? ;) Look at females posted by Sarah, too:
http://www.dipter...ad_id=1110.
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 24-02-2006 00:37
#8
More information born more questions.
Thailand. Is this fly some Oriental speciec of Anthomyia, please. Same size.
Posted by Dima DD on 25-02-2006 17:47
#9
May it be male of the same species as in the 1st photo?
Dima DD
Edited by Dima DD on 25-02-2006 17:48
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 25-02-2006 18:25
#10
I don't think so. Thai fly has black bend on abdomen instead of 2 or 3 black spots. May be Theo knows...
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 07-01-2007 12:32
#11
Returning to first Anthomyia (from Sinai).
It is good illustration how difficult to learn Diptera.
During half year I tried to ID Anthomyiidae, using this fly as material with known genus to compare with. And during half year I can't understand what does mean "proepisternum bare/pilose", because proepisternum of this Anthomyia looks bare, but has to be pilose.
Finally, with help of Ackland key I found answer - it is neither A. pluvialis, nor A. procellaris, but female of species group of Anthomyia with bare proepisternum!
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 24-01-2008 19:42
#12
Coming back to first image in this old post I have to say that at my current opinion the answer on question "Sinai. Muscidae" is "Yes, Muscidae,
Brontaea tonitrui, var.
canache"
:o
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 24-01-2008 20:00
#13
a muscid like-anthomyiid. :| crazy! :o:o
Posted by Zeegers on 24-01-2008 22:36
#14
I will never ever identify a Muscidae again, nor a Anthomyiidae for that matter. Nikita convinced me just now.
Theo