Posted by DedeLab on 03-02-2026 09:16
#1
Hello, this Tachinidae fly should be of the genus Carcelia. Do these photos allow us to identify it further?

ANDRE LABETAA : France : Py : 66360 : 08/10/2025
Altitude : 1204 m - Taille : Non mesurée
Réf. : 370491

ANDRE LABETAA : France : Py : 66360 : 08/10/2025
Altitude : 1204 m - Taille : Non mesurée
Réf. : 370492
Posted by eklans on 03-02-2026 12:45
#2
Hello, I think female Carcelia is correct. But trying to use the T&H key is diffult with these 2 photos.
What I could find out:
basicosta yellow but mid tibia has 2 ad bristles with similar size
mid tibia is black?
abdomen has discals
arista is tapering more evenly
space between posterior ocelli not distinctly great
results in
C. alpestris, which is only listed for northern Italy - and I couldn't find more details.
(C. kowarzi is a late and rare on in the pyrenees, but has yellow tibiae)
EDIT: The host of
C. alpestris:
Arctia flavia (Herting, 1966) is listed for the pyrenees (GBIF 43.2N, 3.0E) as is for the alps!
Edited by eklans on 03-02-2026 13:01