Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Haematopota italica ? (2nd specimen) - north-western France

Posted by BLecaplain on 05-09-2024 14:28
#1

an other specimen found also in a moor.
Spot on tergites 3 to 6.
First antennal segment long with a small constriction, black-grey.
Femora orange/ brown (exactly as bigoti).
Is it ok for italica ?

Edited by BLecaplain on 05-09-2024 14:28

Posted by BLecaplain on 05-09-2024 14:30
#2

lateral view

Posted by BLecaplain on 05-09-2024 14:30
#3

zoom

Posted by BLecaplain on 05-09-2024 14:31
#4

frons

Posted by BLecaplain on 09-09-2024 22:11
#5

I have a doubt with this one, could it be gallica ? The first segment is not so long as italica in direct comparaison with the other specimen in my other post. (And I found two specimens of gallica in our pro collection, identified by M. Portillo, same area, North western France)

Edited by BLecaplain on 10-09-2024 17:04

Posted by Zeegers on 10-09-2024 19:44
#6

Gallica is just a synonym of italica, it is a "ghost species"

And yes, very nice female italica. In doubt, colouration of femora is a big clue (otherwise only found in bigoti, very different, and grandis)

Theo

Posted by BLecaplain on 10-09-2024 20:42
#7

Thanks Theo !
Where can I find the publication where gallica and italica are synonymized ? For my information and for actualisation of national liste.
BenoƮt

Posted by Zeegers on 11-09-2024 10:39
#8

As I recall, it was a publication by Wolfgang Schacht, but I cannot find it 1-2-3.
In any case, given as synonym by Portillo for Iberian peninsula.


Theo

Posted by Zeegers on 11-09-2024 10:45
#9

It was in an appendix, therefore difficult to find :(

https://www.zobodat.at/pdf/ENT_0005_0483-0498.pdf

Posted by BLecaplain on 11-09-2024 12:19
#10

Thanks Theo