Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Clytiomyia continua? Eliozeta pellucens? --> Eliozeta helluo

Posted by Jann Wuebbenhorst on 22-05-2024 16:26
#1

I found this Tachinid yesterday (21st May 2024) on Leucanthemum vulgare, on a dry meadow near the Elbe river (Lüneburg, Niedersachsen, Germany)
best regards,
Jann

Edited by Jann Wuebbenhorst on 30-05-2024 11:11

Posted by Jann Wuebbenhorst on 22-05-2024 16:27
#2

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Posted by Jann Wuebbenhorst on 22-05-2024 16:27
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Posted by Jann Wuebbenhorst on 22-05-2024 16:28
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Posted by eklans on 22-05-2024 17:30
#5

Hi Jann, I think it's a male Eliozeta helluo.

Posted by Jann Wuebbenhorst on 30-05-2024 11:08
#6

Hi Eric,
nice - E. helluo ist not listed yet for Niedersachsen.
Greetings,
Jann

Posted by Zeegers on 31-05-2024 21:12
#7

To me, a clear male E. pellucens, based on arista, length of third antennal segment and abdominal colour.

Theo

Posted by eklans on 01-06-2024 10:36
#8

But aren't the antennae distinctly separated?

T&H key:
helluo: Antennae at their base separated by at least half the width of the 1st antennal segment.
pellucens: Antennae hardly separated at their base.; they almost touch.

Posted by Zeegers on 01-06-2024 20:35
#9

I have no idea, I'd never use that. but for reasons given, to me pellucens.

You can compare pics of validated males and I hope you see my points.

Theo