Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Muscidae ID -> Phaoniini

Posted by smol on 28-03-2024 17:49
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Netherlands, 2024-03-27

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Edited by smol on 18-04-2024 17:33

Posted by John Carr on 28-03-2024 19:57
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Muscidae

Posted by smol on 28-03-2024 21:10
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John Carr wrote:
Muscidae


Thank you once again!

Posted by smol on 18-04-2024 09:12
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I keep keying this to Limnophorini, but I do not know any of these species having such dark appearance with no pattern at all (especially on the abdomen).

Anyone recognize more of this?
Edited by smol on 18-04-2024 09:19

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 18-04-2024 16:53
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Not Limnophorini, Phaoninae.
Chaetotaxy of tibiae will help to say more.

Posted by smol on 18-04-2024 17:32
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Nikita Vikhrev wrote:
Not Limnophorini, Phaoninae.
Chaetotaxy of tibiae will help to say more.


Thank you very much! I completely miss-judged the pre-alar bristle.

Tribe Phaoniini (Phaonia or Helina), posterior(dorsal) seta on hind tibia is a bit hard to see (I believe seta also have been broken). Tried both keys, and believe (with 4 DC, one side broken?), could be Phaonia incana.

But the pictures are not the best, so I am leaving at this :)
Edited by smol on 18-04-2024 17:53