Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Ephydridae
Posted by GAREL Jean-Michel on 16-02-2024 13:50
#1
Hello,
This Ephydridae of 2 mm was observed on february 2 in the north of Yonne department (Burgondy, France).
According to this post:https://diptera.info/photogallery.php?photo_id=5007, Limnellia quadrata should be possible. But, what are the criterions to distinguish between Limnellia quadrata and Ilythea spilota ? All my thanks for a reply.
Jean-Michel GAREL : France : Brannay : 89150 : 02/02/2024
Altitude : NR - Taille : 2 environ
Réf. : 336335
Jean-Michel GAREL : France : Brannay : 89150 : 02/02/2024
Altitude : NR - Taille : 2 environ
Réf. : 336336
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 16-02-2024 14:05
#2
Limnellia
Posted by GAREL Jean-Michel on 16-02-2024 14:15
#3
Thanks Nikita.
Posted by GAREL Jean-Michel on 16-02-2024 15:52
#4
Dear Nikita.
According to this paper: https://diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=112514&pid=465221#post_465221, L. stenhammari is perhaps the best species.
Posted by Tony Irwin on 16-02-2024 16:42
#5
This is
Limnellia quadrata - note that it has just two dark spots hanging off vein R4&5. Separating
Limnellia from
Ilythea is straightforward.
Limnellia has a moustache of bristles fringing the mouthedge, whereas
Ilythea has a face that is bare centrally.
Posted by GAREL Jean-Michel on 16-02-2024 20:37
#6
Thanks Tony for your response about Limnellia versus Ilythea.
Regards, Jean-Michel Garel.
Posted by Cranefly on 20-02-2024 11:46
#7
Some more comments about Limnellia.
The name of species depends on 2 or 3 spots on vein, which are pointed with lines on figures (Krivosheina, 2012).
On your photos I see 2 spots only, so it is to be quadrata. Tarsal segments of this species partly yellowish. Halters black.
But the wings are one above another.
The third spot may be possible under another angle of vision.
If you see 3 dark spots - the species may be stenhammari or fallax.
In this case you can check the coloration of halter
In Limnellia stenhammari halter is black and in L. fallax halter is yellow.
In Limnellia stenhammari legs completely black, including tarsi. In Limnellia fallax basal tarsomer yellow.
Edited by Cranefly on 20-02-2024 11:47
Posted by GAREL Jean-Michel on 21-02-2024 07:50
#8
A lot of thanks Cranefly for your comments.
Best wishes.
Jean-Michel Garel.