Thread subject: Diptera.info :: male of Bibio clavipes!

Posted by Volker Achterberg on 23-01-2024 23:46
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date: 08 Oct. 2023; location: in Hamburg, Germany, in a park area close to a small lake;
a male of a Bibio species: B. longipes or B. clavipes?
Can anybody help with the correct ID?
Thanks and best regards, Volker

Edited by Volker Achterberg on 24-01-2024 18:08

Posted by Volker Achterberg on 23-01-2024 23:50
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2nd picture

Edited by Volker Achterberg on 23-01-2024 23:50

Posted by Volker Achterberg on 23-01-2024 23:51
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3rd picture

Posted by Volker Achterberg on 23-01-2024 23:51
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4th picture

Posted by Zeegers on 24-01-2024 09:04
#5

I don't dare to make the call


Theo

Posted by eklans on 24-01-2024 13:08
#6

But I do - supported by a nice paper of Theo Zeegers ;)

It's Bibio clavipes:

Pterostigma overschrijdt subcosta: nee (betrouwbar)
Vleugel man: melkwit (betrouwbar)

From:
de zwarte vlieg bibio longipes, een late herfstsoort, by Theo Zeegers
in: Nederlandse Faunistische Medelingen 48 - 2017

Posted by Volker Achterberg on 24-01-2024 18:10
#7

Thanks a lot, Eric and Theo!
Great, that the species ID could be clarified.
Best regards, Volker

Posted by Zeegers on 24-01-2024 23:19
#8

Whoah, who is this guy from this key ?

Now, for serious

the milky wing is very conspicuous in the field, but very tricky to assess from pictures, in my experience.
On the right wing in the first pic the stigma crosses the vein, or so it seems.

Theo