Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Muscidae?

Posted by Cor Zonneveld on 14-02-2008 12:17
#1

Can someone ID this fly at (sub-)family level or below? Regrettably this is the only viewpoint I have photo's from.

Amstelveen, the Netherlands. 19 April 2007. In shrub bordering footbal field (that's Nature in Amstelveen...)

Edited by Cor Zonneveld on 14-02-2008 12:18

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 14-02-2008 18:55
#2

I think it's Anthomyiidae, maybe Hydrophoria...

Posted by javanerkelens on 14-02-2008 23:30
#3

Dear Stephane,

How can you see the differents between Muscidae and Anthomyiidae.

I'm learning and I find it very difficult to see.
(I thougt also that it was a Muscidae...)

Greatings Joke

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#4

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Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 14-02-2008 23:56
#5

First I wrote "I think", so I'm not sure it is not a Muscidae. It's true this fly looks like some Muscid like Thricops genarum, but the general appearance, the "jizz" speaks more for Anthomyiidae. Unfortunately, the formal character, i.e. tha A1 vein reaching wing margin is not visible on the picture. Not as a rule, but as a clue, there are some characters that are more often seen in Anthomyiidae than in Muscidae : 3 postsutural dorsocentral (Muscidae more often 4), bare arista, proeminent profrons, small abdomen (males), not sinuous Sc vein, small calypters and so on...