Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Tabanidae ID => Nemorius vitripennis (f)

Posted by basileus on 04-06-2023 13:00
#1

Is it possible to identify this one by such foto? June 2023. Western region of Ukraine.

Edited by basileus on 11-06-2023 13:33

Posted by Zeegers on 05-06-2023 18:22
#2

Well, this seems to be a big surprise: female of Silvius latifrons, which has two separated populations: Caucasus and Greece. This might fill the gap.


Theo

Posted by John Carr on 05-06-2023 20:06
#3

Zeegers wrote:
Well, this seems to be a big surprise: female of Silvius latifrons, which has two separated populations: Caucasus and Greece. This might fill the gap.


Theo


Silvius latifrons graecus was reported from Turkey, Çanakkale province along the Dardanelles (Kılıç 2001). Is graecus still a subspecies?

Posted by Zeegers on 05-06-2023 20:20
#4

Thanks, John !
Well, how to define a (sub)species in case of allopatric taxa ?

Theo

Posted by basileus on 05-06-2023 21:42
#5

Zeegers wrote:
Well, this seems to be a big surprise: female of Silvius latifrons, which has two separated populations: Caucasus and Greece. This might fill the gap.


Theo


Wow! I don't even know what to say about this?

Posted by Zeegers on 05-06-2023 22:12
#6

it is not (yet) 100 %, it is 99%.
catch one and/or make a razorsharp pic of the antenna

(yes, I know, it is not easy)

Theo

Posted by John Carr on 06-06-2023 10:33
#7

Zeegers wrote:
Thanks, John !
Well, how to define a (sub)species in case of allopatric taxa ?

Theo


One of the American Drosophila researchers used to test reproductive compatibility with existing species before describing a new species.

Posted by Zeegers on 06-06-2023 19:28
#8

Well done, I do applaud this apprisch, but highly theoretical in nearly all cases, alas..Theo