Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Hybomitra, practical question

Posted by clovis on 04-03-2023 23:30
#1

Hi everyone,

Here is specimen caught close to my previous specimen H montana in the Pyrenes.

I believe this is H distinguenda, with those yellow hairs on reddish abdominal part and red on 4 tergites (and fin space between eyes).
To confirm, I looked to find subgenital plate. In order to do so, I tryed extracting what lies under last sternite, but I only manage to find an hidden sternite.

Before making another butchery (extraction wasn't succesfull, see last picture), I ask for some advise: do I have to look under last sternite (like I'd do for Sylvicola) or is there a better/other way to do so?



www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos318/big/Bolquere%20juillet%202021%20H%20distinguenda%204.JPG
clovis : France : Bolquère : 66210 : 23/07/2021
Altitude : 1720 m - Taille : 15 mm
Réf. : 318753

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos318/big/Bolquere%20juillet%202021%20H%20distinguenda%202.JPG
clovis : France : Bolquère : 66210 : 23/07/2021
Altitude : 1720 m - Taille : 15 mm
Réf. : 318754
www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos318/big/Bolquere%20juillet%202021%20H%20distinguenda%203.JPG
clovis : France : Bolquère : 66210 : 23/07/2021
Altitude : 1720 m - Taille : 15 mm
Réf. : 318755
www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos318/big/Bolquere%20juillet%202021%20H%20distinguenda%201.JPG
clovis : France : Bolquère : 66210 : 23/07/2021
Altitude : 1720 m - Taille : 15 mm
Réf. : 318756

Posted by Zeegers on 05-03-2023 09:04
#2

The hidden “sternite” = subgenital plate.

I can see it loud and clear in your pic.

And yes, this should be female distinguenda.


Theo


Posted by clovis on 05-03-2023 15:52
#3

So mistery of the hidden sternite is now solved! :D
A good thing I didn't butcher this subgenital plate!

Many thanks on preventing that and confirmation! :D