Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Agromyzidae imago ID-able? -> Napomyza sp. (lateralis (Fallén) group)

Posted by smol on 27-11-2022 15:46
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Wondering if Agromyzidae imagos are ID-able by image. Not the best image, but worth a try.

Netherlands, 2022-09-20, around 3mm, on an Aquilegia vulgaris.

waarneming.nl/media/photo/58231340.jpg
Edited by smol on 19-02-2023 22:10

Posted by smol on 24-01-2023 17:03
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Somewhat the same found:

waarneming.nl/media/photo/50782046.jpg
waarneming.nl/media/photo/50782047.jpg
waarneming.nl/media/photo/50782048.jpg

Could this be Phytomyza? Found this ID matrix (https://agromyzidae.linnaeus.naturalis.nl/linnaeus_ng/app/views/matrixkey/index.php?mtrx=167), even though not all species are in there it might be enough for a genus?

Posted by Paul Beuk on 24-01-2023 17:19
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This looks like Phytomyza, yes, but in many (most?) cases you will need male genitalia for a reliable ID.

Posted by smol on 25-01-2023 18:00
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Paul Beuk wrote:
This looks like Phytomyza, yes, but in many (most?) cases you will need male genitalia for a reliable ID.


Dank!

Posted by von Tschirnhaus on 16-02-2023 22:18
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Agromyzidae: Napomyza sp. (lateralis (Fallén) group). In the first image the second cross vein is indistinctly to be seen in continuation of the anterior cross vein. 3rd antennal segment short as in most species, antenna black.

Posted by von Tschirnhaus on 16-02-2023 22:22
#6
Agromyzidae: Napomyza sp. (lateralis (Fallén) group). In the first image the second cross vein is indistinctly to be seen in continuation of the anterior cross vein. 3rd antennal segment short as in most species, antenna black.

Posted by smol on 19-02-2023 22:10
#7
von Tschirnhaus wrote:
Agromyzidae: Napomyza sp. (lateralis (Fallén) group). In the first image the second cross vein is indistinctly to be seen in continuation of the anterior cross vein. 3rd antennal segment short as in most species, antenna black.


Thank you very much, von Tschirnhaus! I have been using one of a matrix I believe you also contributed to (https://agromyzidae.linnaeus.naturalis.nl/linnaeus_ng/app/views/matrixkey/index.php?mtrx=167) to get some info on identifying Agromyzidae.

How could I separate Napomyza vs Phytomyza? Anything resource I can read?

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I believe my other ones are also Napomyzo then (if at all identifiable):
- https://waarneming.nl/observation/255071983/
- https://waarneming.nl/observation/256899111/

https://waarneming.nl/observation/251539040/ -> Melanagromyza?