Thread subject: Diptera.info :: One of those difficult ones
Posted by lynkos on 05-12-2005 18:33
#1
Just don't know where to start here.
Thanks, Sarah
Posted by Zeegers on 05-12-2005 20:09
#2
It's a Muscidae or, more likely, an Anthomyiidae.
That's where my expertise ends.
Theo
Posted by lynkos on 05-12-2005 20:57
#3
I get so confused about these :(. Thanks Theo for this initial input, Sarah
Posted by Dima DD on 13-12-2005 12:57
#4
Hi, diptera funs,
lynkos wrote:
Just don't know where to start here.
Thanks, Sarah
I think that trying to take several views (dorsal and lateral) may improve success for such difficult flies. I read that it's possible to recognize Muscidae/Anthomyiidae families (i) by veins A2 and A1+CuA2 in the dorsal view (A. - reach wing margins, at least as fold; M. - not ..., these veins are short) and by the presense of sub-apical cell (A. - absent, M. - present) and (ii) by comparison of calypters' sizes in the lateral view (M. - lower calypter is larger than upper one; A. - lower calypter may be less than upper one or absent). Am I right?
BTW, I didn't find images with general wing venation schemes (and comprehensive descriptions) in the internet... Where is sub-apical cell?
Sincerely, Dima
Posted by Paul Beuk on 13-12-2005 15:30
#5
Dima, what is the source of your characters dealing with the subapical cells?
Posted by Dima DD on 13-12-2005 18:43
#6
Paul Beuk wrote:
Dima, what is the source of your characters dealing with the subapical cells?
Paul, I've just compared families by the Delta-intkey program with the key which ink-file I found in the "Downloads" section. Other characters I found there, too. I've checked also some other (more simple) keys in the internet, but didn't find any words about subapical cells there...
Yes, it's possible to reach these descriptions on
http://www.delta-.../index.htm (British insects) directly.
Edited by Dima DD on 13-12-2005 18:48
Posted by Paul Beuk on 13-12-2005 21:28
#7
I will see where the intkey takes me when sorting this out. :)