Thread subject: Diptera.info :: wasp for ID

Posted by zcuc on 15-12-2007 01:31
#1

Found in Israel

Posted by Christian Schmid-Egger on 15-12-2007 09:40
#2

Its a Liris spec. (Crabronidae), species ID not possible, about 8 sp. in Israel. Nice Photo!

Regards, Christian

Posted by zcuc on 15-12-2007 20:09
#3

thanksChristian,
Why does this genus is hard on identification? is it because lake of genus information or does this genus need genitalia examination?
I notice a lot of wasp are very hard to identify from an image, I know that fly are compared by bristles, venation and genitalia. how does it work in Hymenoptera order?

Posted by Christian Schmid-Egger on 19-12-2007 19:28
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It exists a recent revision of mediterranean Liris, which also works in Israel, so identification with pinned specimens is possible. But characters for species ID are few and barely visible, so ID needs some experience. Characters are many, but mostly not visible on photo (e.g. puncture of various body parts, form of mandible, some furrows etc. on legs, sculpture of pygidial area...).

Regards, Christian