Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Polistes bischoffi?

Posted by TiCor on 26-11-2007 08:04
#1

Hello,

I found this waspnest in Malta (Southern Europe).
Someone on a Dutch forum suggested Polistes bischoffi, but he wasn't sure.

Is this a P. bischoffi or should I keep it as Polistes sp.?

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Edited by TiCor on 28-11-2007 20:38

Posted by crex on 26-11-2007 09:27
#2

Compare with the photos on this Vespidae page ...

Posted by TiCor on 26-11-2007 09:56
#3

Tank you for the link Crex.

Hmmm...difficult. Now I think it is P. dominulus, but still not sure :o

Posted by Christian Schmid-Egger on 26-11-2007 11:31
#4

Most probable it is Polistes gallicus (the former foederatus). P. bischoffi is excluded, because it has dark antennae. What you can see, are all males.

Regards, Christian

P.S. May I use the photo for your web gallery?

Posted by TiCor on 26-11-2007 11:53
#5

Thank you very much Christian!

You can use the photo's for your gallery.
If you want them without the frame, I can send them to you tonight.

Regards,
Tim

Posted by cthirion on 26-11-2007 13:19
#6

Polistes gallicus is synonym Polistes dominulus?

Name at present dominulus?

Posted by Christian Schmid-Egger on 26-11-2007 14:32
#7

No, nomenclature is more problematic. There has been a big change in the 80th.

Former P. gallicus is now P. dominulus
Former P. foederatus is now P. gallicus

Both are similar in color etc, but gallicus is more slender. It occurs only in the mediterranean area, whereas dominulus also reaches Central Europe. I am not really sure with my diagnosis, because dominulus is also possible, but some details on the head of the males are more typical for gallicus.

Regards, Christian

Posted by cthirion on 26-11-2007 17:12
#8

Thanks Christian;)

Posted by Isidro on 02-12-2007 18:08
#9

And name at present for the former P. dominulus is Polistes dominula :p

Posted by Christian Schmid-Egger on 02-12-2007 18:46
#10

Never heard Polistes dominula. P. dominulus is the correct spelling, as far as I know.

Regards, Christian