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| Ruslan |
Posted on 15-06-2020 19:12
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 Member Location: Ukraine Posts: 165 Joined: 22.05.18 |
Ukraine, Kherson, steppe 13.06.2020. 8-13 ΠΌΠΌ. Thanks in advance for the help in determining. Ruslan attached the following image:  [143Kb] Edited by Ruslan on 17-06-2020 18:22 |
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| Ruslan |
Posted on 15-06-2020 19:13
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| Ruslan |
Posted on 15-06-2020 19:13
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| Chris Cohen |
Posted on 16-06-2020 00:05
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This is Asilidae, but something less commonly encountered. Could you add a photo that clearly shows the wing venation, and a photo that clearly shows the apex of the anterior tibiae? |
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| Chris Cohen |
Posted on 16-06-2020 00:11
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Also, if you can, I would encourage you to collect more of these, especially some females. I see it was collected in steppe. What was the microhabitat? What was it perching on? Edited by Chris Cohen on 16-06-2020 00:15 |
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| Ruslan |
Posted on 16-06-2020 12:28
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Member Location: Ukraine Posts: 165 Joined: 22.05.18 |
Chris Cohen, thank you very much! I will photograph the drumstick and biotope tomorrow. Ruslan attached the following image:  [164.51Kb] |
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| Quaedfliegh |
Posted on 16-06-2020 23:19
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 Member Location: Tilburg Netherlands Posts: 2208 Joined: 18.05.10 |
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I don't know??? Something close to Heteropogon/Anisopogon? Sorry, I don't have a clue literally...
Greetings, Reinoud Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/ https://www.nev.nl/diptera/ |
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| Ruslan |
Posted on 17-06-2020 18:11
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Member Location: Ukraine Posts: 165 Joined: 22.05.18 |
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| Ruslan |
Posted on 17-06-2020 18:12
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Posted on 17-06-2020 18:13
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| Ruslan |
Posted on 17-06-2020 18:14
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| Ruslan |
Posted on 17-06-2020 18:15
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| Ruslan |
Posted on 17-06-2020 18:16
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| Chris Cohen |
Posted on 17-06-2020 18:41
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Excellent work Ruslan! I'm still working to ID this fly, but I can say for now that this is something very unusual. |
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| Ruslan |
Posted on 17-06-2020 19:06
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Member Location: Ukraine Posts: 165 Joined: 22.05.18 |
Should I put a few legs from these flies in alcohol for DNA?  |
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| Chris Cohen |
Posted on 17-06-2020 20:27
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How many specimens do you have? If you have an extra, I'd suggest throwing the entire specimen into 90-100% ethanol. I don't want to get ahead of myself, but these may end up being type specimens so I would prefer at least 1 male and 1 female stay fully intact. |
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| Ruslan |
Posted on 17-06-2020 20:55
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Member Location: Ukraine Posts: 165 Joined: 22.05.18 |
6mm /4ff on needles already. But if necessary, I can take a few more for alcohol. They live at a distance of 800-900 meters from my garden. |
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| Chris Cohen |
Posted on 17-06-2020 21:25
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Yes, if you can get a few fresh specimens into ethanol that would be very good (1-2 would be sufficient). I'm assuming they perch/hunt from the vegetation? |
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| Ruslan |
Posted on 17-06-2020 21:34
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Member Location: Ukraine Posts: 165 Joined: 22.05.18 |
Yes, they sit exclusively on the grass. In the middle tier. |
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| Ruslan |
Posted on 30-06-2020 09:58
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Member Location: Ukraine Posts: 165 Joined: 22.05.18 |
Is a Cyrtopogon sp. possible? |
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