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Rhagio montanus? -> vitripennis
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Slovakia, Zvolen region, 700 m.a.s.l., village garden on plateau in hilly landscape, 27 May 2020, rather small Rhagio, approx 10 mm.

I have possibly photographed this species before, but it was larger and there were a small difference in the appearance - this new specimen had yellow antennas, while the older (larger) ones from Great Fatra mts. did not.

Except for this, all of them matched the description in M.P. van Veen's key: hyaline wings, uniformly dark pterostigma, thoracic dorsum with longitudinal stripes, yellow femora. My personal observation is a two-tone scutellum (grey base, yellow tip. The first coxa is slightly yellowish.

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the same specimen (a small one)
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the female from Great Fatra, a larger one with grey antennas, 11 June 2017, 500 m.a.s.l. (but from much higher mountain range)
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the same female
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Hi treebeard, what about R. vitripennis? It seems the veins of the wings are slightly darkened?

Eric
 
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and the male from Great Fatra, 9 June 2019
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@eklans - yes, I considered also R. vitripennis, but this species should not have yellow antennas while those from Great Fatra (with grey antenas) are larger.
 
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Sternite 1 of the smaller male: does not seem hairy
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Don't rely on colour features in Rhagio too much, to me, vitripennis without any doubt.

Wing pattern is distinctive.

Theo
 
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Thank you very much
 
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By the way - beware of angry males vitripennis:
Grin
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This one of exceptional, I hope Shock
 
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By the way, is there any diagnosis of Rhagio montanus? I have failed to google it.
 
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This site shows a good summary of R. montanus:
http://www.spessa...tanus.html

Eric
 
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Thank you, eklans
 
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