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 Syrphidae: Portevinia maculata ? --> No, it's Cheilosia semifasciata
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| kuv |
Posted on 06-12-2019 13:45
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Member Location: Schenefeld near Hamburg Posts: 3781 Joined: 30.04.10 |
Northern Germany, Schleswig-Holstein, Schenefeld near Hamburg, hedge with a drainage ditch between a playground and a field of a nursery school for trees, grown up with bushes like Corylus, Acer campestre, Salix and other, at a leaf of Prunus padus, 30th of April 2019, Outdoorphotos: kuv. Is my idea ok? Please help me to get the ID. Kuv kuv attached the following image:  [76.15Kb] Edited by kuv on 07-03-2020 13:38 |
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| kuv |
Posted on 06-12-2019 13:46
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Member Location: Schenefeld near Hamburg Posts: 3781 Joined: 30.04.10 |
2nd picture:
kuv attached the following image:  [114.78Kb] |
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| Xylosoma |
Posted on 07-12-2019 09:16
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Member Location: Posts: 43 Joined: 14.10.19 |
No, this is not Portevinia maculata, there are too many hairs on eyes. Xylo |
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| kuv |
Posted on 08-12-2019 11:04
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Member Location: Schenefeld near Hamburg Posts: 3781 Joined: 30.04.10 |
Thank you very much Xylo, so it remains "Cheilosia sp." ? Greetings Kuv |
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| Karsten Thomsen |
Posted on 06-03-2020 18:47
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 Member Location: Hjortshøj, Jutland, Denmark Posts: 651 Joined: 07.01.16 |
Judging from Bot & Meutter 2019, the combination of dark antennae, hairy eyes, and clear, welldefined grey-blue spots on the tergits should point to Cheilosia fasciata. C. semifasciata has less clear spots and is quite small. I have myself never seen any of the two mentioned Cheilosia, however. |
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| Ectemnius |
Posted on 06-03-2020 21:26
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Member Location: The Netherlands Posts: 865 Joined: 22.11.11 |
Hello people, Portevinia has red antennae. Cheilosia fasciata has dark hairs on the eyes and quite extensive red around the knees. The dark legs, light hair on the eyes, weak spots on the abdomen and habitat all point to Cheilosia semifasciata. Also the quite downward protruding face, although poorly visible from this angle, is an indication The larvae mine the leaves of Sedum sp., a common garden plant. This is also from experience as I have seen all the aforementioned species multiple times in the field... Kind regards, Ectemnius |
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| kuv |
Posted on 07-03-2020 13:37
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Member Location: Schenefeld near Hamburg Posts: 3781 Joined: 30.04.10 |
Woow, thank you very much Thomas  and Ectemnius .So I think I can change headline to Cheilosia semifasciata! Best regards Kuv |
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| Karsten Thomsen |
Posted on 07-03-2020 14:08
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Member Location: Hjortshøj, Jutland, Denmark Posts: 651 Joined: 07.01.16 |
Congrats, kuv - I trust that we will find this species in Denmark one day, too, since both the British and the Norwegians have it, too. :-) |
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| kuv |
Posted on 08-03-2020 10:27
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Member Location: Schenefeld near Hamburg Posts: 3781 Joined: 30.04.10 |
Thanks Thomas and good luck to find this fly in Denmark. Greetings Kuv |
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| Ectemnius |
Posted on 08-03-2020 13:08
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Member Location: The Netherlands Posts: 865 Joined: 22.11.11 |
Wow, it's not listed as Danish in faunaeuropea indeed! If you want to find it, don't look in the vicinity of Sedum sp. In the Netherlands it has been found at least several kilometers away from the nearest Sedum plant. The place and time to look for it is in April and May along paths in forests. There you find males, sometimes in a group, defending a territory on some leaves. Mostly found in parks and small woods in the vicinity of urban areas. Kind regards, Ectemnius |
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| Karsten Thomsen |
Posted on 19-03-2020 22:52
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Member Location: Hjortshøj, Jutland, Denmark Posts: 651 Joined: 07.01.16 |
Thank you for the useful tips, Ectemnius! :-) |
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