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| Alvesgaspar |
Posted on 20-10-2007 14:02
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 Member Location: Lisbon, Portugal Posts: 573 Joined: 24.08.07 |
Quite small spider (~4mm), very common in Portugal. I'm sure it is easy to ID for someone knowing a little more than me. I suppose it is a male?... Joaquim Gaspar Lisboa Alvesgaspar attached the following image:  [139.72Kb] |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 20-10-2007 14:30
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Salticidae. Yep, a male. But I would need another photo - dorsal view and with less zoom.  |
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| Isidro |
Posted on 20-10-2007 16:20
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2070 Joined: 26.04.07 |
Menemerus semilimbatus I think. |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 20-10-2007 16:34
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
and you are right! But a dorsal view would confirm this.  |
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| Alvesgaspar |
Posted on 20-10-2007 19:37
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Member Location: Lisbon, Portugal Posts: 573 Joined: 24.08.07 |
jorgemotalmeida wrote: and you are right! But a dorsal view would confirm this. Are you sure? This a quite small spider. Here is another vue. Joaquim Alvesgaspar attached the following image:  [130.98Kb] |
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| Isidro |
Posted on 20-10-2007 20:06
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2070 Joined: 26.04.07 |
From this pont of view, I'm retracted and I now say Menemerus bivittatus. |
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| Alvesgaspar |
Posted on 20-10-2007 20:27
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Member Location: Lisbon, Portugal Posts: 573 Joined: 24.08.07 |
Isidro wrote: From this pont of view, I'm retracted and I now say Menemerus bivittatus. Here is a side view, mybe it will help Alvesgaspar attached the following image:  [103.29Kb] |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 20-10-2007 21:17
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
This is not Menemerus semilimbatus - http://salticidae...hol-ph.htm -- with the new photos. Menemerus sp. - I never saw a Menemerus like this one. I have doubts concerning bivittatus. http://salticidae...vit-pc.jpg -- Marpissa melanognatha is a synonym for M. bivittatus. I have photos of this spider M. bivittatus - ID 100% reliable because my friend expert Silva checked the genitalia - http://www.aranhas.info/index.php?option=com_fichas&Itemid=43 go to Salticidae and then choose (below) the M. bivittatus. |
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| aranhas |
Posted on 19-01-2008 18:15
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Member Location: Posts: 3 Joined: 19.01.08 |
Hi, this is my first post in this forum, so, first here goes my "Hi to everyone" Alvesgaspar: These photos are not from the same spider. The first one is a Menemerus semilimbatus (probably a young female) like Isidro noticed. The second and third are from a different spider. Notice the following if you're in doubt: Head region of carapace: dark with a white triangular mark on the first one; Light on second one. Carapace in general: red, black and white hairs on Menemerus, black and white on the other one. The pattern of the second one looks like a Salticus mutabilis. Near the pedicel, the anterior part of abdomen as well as part of carapace have a well defined black mark wich is not present in the first one. Abd+ominal markings are also different in both (black spots on Menemerus, absent in the other one). So, in fact, these photos do not refer to the same spider.
Edited by aranhas on 19-01-2008 18:17 |
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| Alvesgaspar |
Posted on 21-01-2008 01:44
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Member Location: Lisbon, Portugal Posts: 573 Joined: 24.08.07 |
Thank you aranhas, and welcome! Joaquim |
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