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 Psilidae - Chamaepsila sp. (?) very nice fly.
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 14-10-2007 15:00
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Hi * locality - Fontelo's garden - Viseu - PORTUGAL * date - 2007.10.13 * size - 6 mm (medium fly) * habitat - public garden * substrate - resting on a leaf, very near the ground Psila ? it is a female. EDIT---> Title changed from "Psilidae - Psila sp. (?) very nice fly." to "Psilidae - Oxypsila sp. (?) very nice fly." and then to "Psilidae - Chamaepsila sp. (?) very nice fly." jorgemotalmeida attached the following image:  [132.77Kb] Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 15-10-2007 14:26 |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 14-10-2007 15:02
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 14-10-2007 15:03
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 14-10-2007 15:04
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 14-10-2007 15:06
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
last photo.
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 14-10-2007 23:52
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Psila sp. ? Am I right? thank you. |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 15-10-2007 00:41
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 Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
Hmm, it looks like no Psilid I have seen. But then again, I have hardly seen them all  Definitely not Psila though. Oxypsila sp. ?
Kahis |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 15-10-2007 00:43
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
it is nice to see that this fly is putting doubts. I have a male of this one, I think. I will upload the photos very soon. |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 15-10-2007 08:17
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19363 Joined: 11.05.04 |
In our Dutch key Oxypsila is keyed out as having no dorsocentral setae, but this one has two prescutellar dc. Following the key I would have to say it is Chamaepsila but that does not ring right when looking at the Chamaespsila we have here.
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 15-10-2007 09:57
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 Member Location: Waalwijk, The Netherlands Posts: 2136 Joined: 24.07.04 |
Very nice fly indeed. I'm very curious what it will turn out to be! Jan Willem |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 15-10-2007 16:57
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
let me know if you want a detailed shot of terminalia... and others. I have almost photos from all angles. But I just can upload the photos on Wednesday. |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 16-10-2007 17:40
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
this case is getting more and more interesting. Bernhard Merz told to me : "According to my knowledge and our reference collection it is a species close to "Psila" gracilis Loew. However, there are some differences, in particular in chaetotaxy of the head and in the arrangement of the black stripes on the mesonotum. (...) without checking some crucial characters (fine setulae on thorax, exact distribution of setae, wing shape and venation, more precise study of head shape, and of course of the female terminalia) it is not possible to establish the name, even the genus is not fully clear." Be tunned. Hopefully I will upload photos more later.
Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 16-10-2007 17:42 |
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| Heteropteran |
Posted on 16-10-2016 09:57
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Member Location: Istanbul Turkey Posts: 279 Joined: 06.01.15 |
Chamaepsila setalba Friedberg & Shatalkin, 2008--> new name for Chamaepsila gracilis Loew, 1854 |
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| Jocelyn Claude |
Posted on 28-09-2022 18:51
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Member Location: Posts: 45 Joined: 29.08.22 |
Hello ! Head with two large, brown lateral occipital spots. Thorax with a brown band from postpronotum to base of halters. =>Chamaepsila longipennis (Séguy, 1936) |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 29-09-2022 14:13
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Thanks Jocelyn! |
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