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"Scylaticus miniatus" from Rhodes
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Dear Forum!
I took these two (bad...) photographs of robber fly in early July and late May, respectively, near Faliraki, Rhodes.
Dispite the poor quality of the pics, I think I was able to tentatively ID the species as Scylaticus miniatus ( both females) by using the photographs and key here:

https://m.miketaylornaturalist.co.uk/upload/Stylaticus%20miniatus%20Beck.%20Figured%20diagnosis.xlsx

and also by the description given here:

https://archive.org/stream/annaleshistoric131915term/annaleshistoric131915term_djvu.txt

However, this species name is not listed in Fauna Europaea or in BioLib.

Is Scylaticus miniatus an ivalid name? And if yes, what is the valid name now?

Thanks for any help!

Greetings,
Henrik
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Second specimen:
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In my opinion this is a Habropogon cf longicornis also the pictures in Mike's paper concern a Habropogon sp. Please note the short legs and metatarsi.
Greetings,

Reinoud

Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/

https://www.nev.nl/diptera/
 
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Thank you!
Does it mean that "Scylaticus miniatus" is in fact Habropogon?

(I guess that the correct name is Habropogon longiventris, right?)

Greetings,
Henrik
 
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Ahum, yes.... longiventris. awkward And no, I don't think they are synonym, Scylaticus should have long legs with normal metatarsi. Scylaticus looks rather similar to Stenopogon but with a differently shaped head. In my opinion M Taylor misidentified his specimens.
Greetings,

Reinoud

Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/

https://www.nev.nl/diptera/
 
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Thanks again! :-)
 
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