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Muscidae: Azeliinae: Thricops? -> Phaonia
Steve Scholnick
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Posted on 19-04-2019 23:43
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After much fussing, I think I have this one keyed out to Thricops using the Manual of the Nearctic Diptera. However, I'm a novice at this and also don't have access to either Savage's 2003 revision of the genus or Malloch's 1921 paper on "Trichopticus" so I'd really appreciate some help with the ID.

Thanks in advance!

Steve

body ~7mm
found just off the Potomac River in Maryland; fairly open forest nearby.

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Edited by Steve Scholnick on 10-10-2022 04:40
 
Nikita Vikhrev
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Steve, send me your e-mail and you will get Jade's revision.
But I don't think it helps: it is not Azeliini, but some Nearctic Phaonia (NA Phaonia badly need revision, so I can't give you species name).
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University
 
Steve Scholnick
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Thanks Dr. Vikhrev! I think I misinterpreted couplet 18: "Hind coxa with a row of setae near Iower margin of posterior surface" (leading to Thricops) vs. "Hind coxa without setae on posterior surface" (leading to Phaonia)

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Edited by Steve Scholnick on 20-04-2019 00:45
 
John Carr
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Could this be Phaonia apicata Johannsen 1916?
 
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