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 Which Ogcodes? => Acrocera orbiculus 
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| Ingrid Altmann | 
 Posted on 09-02-2019 19:16 
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Hello, I think this should be Ogcodes. Is it possible to say more? Data: 11.7.2008 near Furth im Wald, Bavarian Forest, Germany. Regards Ingrid Ingrid Altmann attached the following image: ![]() [176.97Kb] Edited by Ingrid Altmann on 11-02-2019 07:50  | 
| Ingrid Altmann | 
 Posted on 09-02-2019 19:16 
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| Sundew | 
 Posted on 10-02-2019 18:07 
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 Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3938 Joined: 28.07.07  | 
This is  a member of Acroceridae, but not Ogcodes, as the antennae sit close to the vertex and not close to the mouth margin. With the key in Weinberg & Bächli (1997) https://www.googl...VvVoMLvxcl I arrive at Paracrocera orbicula that is often included in Acrocera (see https://diptera.i...d_id=74358) Regards, Sundew  | 
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| Ingrid Altmann | 
 Posted on 10-02-2019 18:19 
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Oh yes that looks much better! Thank you very much, also for the interesting links. Kind regards Ingrid  | 
| Ingrid Altmann | 
 Posted on 10-02-2019 18:28 
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Another question: Is the valid Name now Acrocera orbiculus?  | 
| Zeegers | 
 Posted on 10-02-2019 19:18 
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19205 Joined: 21.07.04  | 
What is valid ? Most recent authors do not accept Paracrocera as a genus. Theo  | 
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| Sundew | 
 Posted on 11-02-2019 00:16 
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In their paper of 2002 (https://www.googl...sIyRdqSHjs) Weinberg & Bächli accept the argumentation by Nartshuk (2000) and agree that Paracrocera is a junior synonym of Acrocera. So Acrocera orbiculus is correct. | 
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| Ingrid Altmann | 
 Posted on 11-02-2019 07:51 
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Member Location: Posts: 1018 Joined: 29.11.09  | 
Thank you very much! | 
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