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 New World Nephrotoma (ID John Carr)!; SW Spain
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| Andre Burgers |
Posted on 02-10-2018 19:28
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 Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1083 Joined: 23.04.10 |
Two lovers in the bushes. ¡Saludos! 
Andre Burgers attached the following image:  [301.33Kb] Edited by Andre Burgers on 02-10-2018 21:01 errare humanum est sed perseverare diabolicum |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 02-10-2018 20:33
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 Administrator Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 10317 Joined: 22.10.10 |
One of the New World Nephrotoma species recently found in Spain. |
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| Andre Burgers |
Posted on 02-10-2018 21:00
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Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1083 Joined: 23.04.10 |
Well well. Didn't expect that. And less in this village far from the main routes. But apparently no problem for this couple, busy making a numerous offspring. Thanks, John!!!
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| Andre Burgers |
Posted on 02-10-2018 21:55
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Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1083 Joined: 23.04.10 |
John, Could it be Nephrotoma ferruginea ? https://bugguide.net/node/view/134047 Edited by Andre Burgers on 02-10-2018 21:55 errare humanum est sed perseverare diabolicum |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 03-10-2018 01:58
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Administrator Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 10317 Joined: 22.10.10 |
See comment here: https://diptera.i...ost_329327 Quoting Pjotr Oosterbroek: "N. ferruginea is known from southern Spain and N. s. wulpiana from Spain (Valencia) and Portugal (Algarve). N. ferruginea has two small spots at the upper side of the lateral thorax (fig. 5 in Oosterbroek 1984, PDF also available). N. s. wulpiana has only the upper one (as on the two above photo on Diptera-info). In N. s. wulpiana the posterior end of the mid-dorsal thoracic stripe is darkened and continues into the thoracic suture." |
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| Andre Burgers |
Posted on 03-10-2018 08:42
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Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1083 Joined: 23.04.10 |
Thanks again, John! I found some perfect photos of both species, but I am not sure what black spot we are talking about to separate the two species. https://diptera.info/photogallery.php?photo_id=10565 https://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?act=zoom&img=/DL/IM/I_HHGA/0002/640/Nephrotoma_ferruginea_m,I_HHGA277.jpg?449,208 And I include cropped photo of my specimen. Not perfect because I couldn't get any nearer. Andre Burgers attached the following image:  [226.41Kb] errare humanum est sed perseverare diabolicum |
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