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 Heleomyzidae, Suillia affinis from Romania
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| cosmln |
Posted on 13-09-2007 10:21
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 Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
Hi, yesterday in the field. not a good day but with couple good photos. i think this is a Suillia (7mm fly). founded staying on vegetation. habitat: a valley, beech (Fagus) forest, around 600m altitude. some (2) photos in nature, and 2 of mounted specimen. cosmln cosmln attached the following image:  [134.06Kb] Edited by cosmln on 13-09-2007 23:41 |
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| cosmln |
Posted on 13-09-2007 10:24
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Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
second one
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| cosmln |
Posted on 13-09-2007 10:25
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Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
third (mounted): wing ... forget to put the attach cosmln attached the following image:  [103.17Kb] Edited by cosmln on 13-09-2007 10:27 |
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| cosmln |
Posted on 13-09-2007 10:28
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Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
last one (mounted)
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 13-09-2007 12:07
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9455 Joined: 24.05.05 |
I think it is Suillia affinis Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 13-09-2007 15:22
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2405 Joined: 05.01.06 |
Please check the haed's supracervical setulae near neck. If black so S. umbratica , if yellowish so S. affinis  . Andrzej |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 13-09-2007 16:43
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9455 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Again, there isn't S.umbratica in Gorodkov's key. I reexamened specimens of S.affinis from Moscow and Kursk reg. I have. All have yellow supracervical setulae near neck. But should I add to couplet with S.affinis head's supracervical setulae near neck black S. umbratica ?Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 13-09-2007 17:39
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2405 Joined: 05.01.06 |
of course, ! Andrzej  |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 13-09-2007 18:59
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9455 Joined: 24.05.05 |
My dream, Andrzej, is: you will write new key for European Suillia! Nikita Edited by Nikita Vikhrev on 13-09-2007 19:35 Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 13-09-2007 19:20
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2405 Joined: 05.01.06 |
Yes !, I do, sir :0 Andrzej |
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| cosmln |
Posted on 13-09-2007 19:26
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Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
Andrzej wrote: Please check the haed's supracervical setulae near neck. If black so S. umbratica , if yellowish so S. affinis . Andrzej i have just look thru the microscope... from what i can see all is black there. just taken also two photos thru the oculars (dorsal view and latero-dorsal view)... maybe i don't look where needed. from what i see is S.umbratica (from what is writen in the quote). thanks, cosmln cosmln attached the following image:  [120.46Kb] |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 13-09-2007 19:32
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2405 Joined: 05.01.06 |
So , it is S. affinis  Andrzej |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 13-09-2007 19:36
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9455 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Cosmin, as far as I understand, Andrzej means this hairs
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| cosmln |
Posted on 13-09-2007 19:43
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Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
Nikita Vikhrev wrote: Cosmin, as far as I understand, Andrzej means this hairs Thanks Andrzej and Nikita, sorry for not knowing where exactly to look. but learned now. yes they are yellow, but when i have seen them they where so small that even i was not sure if that are hairs thanks a lot, cosmln |
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