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3mm Braconidae? -> Braconinae Sp. ?
Ray Perry
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Can somebody please ID this or at least confirm that it is Braconidae.
body 3-4mm, horn 2-3mm
feeding on yarrow blossom. 15.50pm, 12th Sept. 2017, Flensburg, Germany.

More detail might be seen on the video:-
https://www.youtu...1wGjp7Cc80

(I removed Siricidae from the subject request after Jürgen pointed out that it's too small to be one.)
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from above
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venation
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long antennae.
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Not Siricidae - I'd say Braconidae
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Thanks Tony, I was wondering about that possibility and that's why I showed the image with the waist.
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Hello Ray,

Ray Perry wrote:
I was wondering about that possibility


Siricidae are large to very large wasps. Urocera gigas, the largest Hymenoptera of central Europe, belongs to the Siricidae. You won't find a Siricid with a length of 3-4 mm, more likey 30-40 mm. Wink
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Thanks Jürgen,
So would you also guess at Braconidae? Any suggestion as to the Subfamily?
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Could this be Atanycolus Sp. ?
 
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Ray Perry wrote:
Could this be Atanycolus Sp. ?


Looks more like Bracon sp..
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Thanks Jürgen

Yes, I thinks that's it - a great helpSmile it matches other images of Bracon Sp. on the internet.

Below is a similar looking male of what I think is also Bracon Sp.
On broccoli flower buds in my garden.
15.47pm, 21st Sept. 2017. Flensburg, Germany.

You can see he has no ovipositor when he goes into flight at the end of this video:-
https://www.youtu...l6QZ2eokjo

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