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 Conopidae - Conops flavifrons
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 20-08-2007 23:22
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Hi * locality - Silgueiros - Viseu - PORTUGAL * date - 2007.08.16 * size - 6 mm (medium fly) * habitat - open land * substrate - on Mentha sp. flowers. I spotted another spectacular conopid in Friday. This is not P. rufipes. Look at the wings and the frons.  EDIT---> Title changed from "Another spectacular conopid!" to "Conopidae - Physocephala chrysorrhoea (smaller size)" then to "Conopidae - Physocephala variegata (smaller size)" and finally to "Conopidae - Conops flavifrons" jorgemotalmeida attached the following image:  [187.95Kb] Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 14-09-2007 22:48 |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 20-08-2007 23:33
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
another view.
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 20-08-2007 23:40
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
another view:
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 20-08-2007 23:47
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
another...
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 21-08-2007 07:53
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18976 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Spectacular. DOn't even know whether it's Conops of Physocephala (or ...) Theo |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 21-08-2007 10:43
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Theo, when you don?t know even the genus in conopid, it must be a very good sign.  I have doubts too in this mystery conopid. I must dig more info for conopids.  |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 22-08-2007 12:45
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
I think this is Psycocephala sp. It is very clear that cross vein at the basis of cell R connects to the underlying cell at two thirds of its length! I think this is definitive character to distinguish between Conops and Psycocephala! |
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| Gerard Pennards |
Posted on 22-08-2007 15:14
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 Member Location: Amersfoort Posts: 1914 Joined: 07.06.04 |
Yes, and again I vote for Physocephala chrysorrhoea! This because of the clearly visible silvery stripe! Greetings, Greetings, Gerard Pennards |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 22-08-2007 18:22
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Yes, Gerard! So I have, for now, (it just lacks to see another thread of conopid) two specimens of P. chrysorrhoea. One bigger specimen (more than 10 mm) and other much smaller (about 6-7 mm --> this one!). Now I must choice the photos for the gallery. I will show, at least, the one that shows clearly the silvery stripe! And other with the wing venation. Any more suggestions? |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 22-08-2007 19:37
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18976 Joined: 21.07.04 |
The one with clear wings, this one, is Ph. variegata. The one with darkened wings is Ph. chrysorhoea. According to Seguy, that is. Theo |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 22-08-2007 19:45
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
hmm... Is it P. chrysorhoea or P. chrysorrhoea? I think it is just a forgot pressing the "r" letter. According to Faunaeur it is P. chrysorrhoea . Ok. So I have a smaller one P. variegata (this one) and the other 2 P. chrysorrhoea. Perfect! Thanks, Theo and Gerard. |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 23-08-2007 07:37
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18976 Joined: 21.07.04 |
My mistake. Double rr Theo |
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| jhstuke |
Posted on 31-08-2007 21:06
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Member Location: Leer, Germany Posts: 147 Joined: 06.06.07 |
It is a Conops I am quite sure it is flavifrons. Jens-Hermann |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 01-09-2007 00:21
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Conops?? BUT the cross vein at the basis of cell R connects to the underlying cell at two thirds of its length, so it would be a Physocephala, no? Explain, please. Thank you! I'm very curious because I know that you are expert on conopids. (I saw your website and know some german. I saw your list of Conopidae: Archiconops ??? an ancient Conops??  Wow! Let me know more about this species! Is it palearctic? |
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