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Asilidae ID? La Rioja, Argentina
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jorgelg21 |
Posted on 10-03-2017 17:44
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Buenas, mi primer posteo por acá, me gustaría saber si se pueden identificar estos ejemplares, al parecer de la misma especie, hallados en el Parque Nacional Talampaya, La Rioja, Argentina el 26/02/2017. El ambiente es Monte de Llanuras y se encuentra aproximadamente a los 1.200 m s.n.m. Gracias de antemano y saludos! Jorge La Grotteria |
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John Carr |
Posted on 10-03-2017 22:44
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Member Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 10176 Joined: 22.10.10 |
Subfamily Asilinae. |
Quaedfliegh |
Posted on 10-03-2017 22:56
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Member Location: Tilburg Netherlands Posts: 2208 Joined: 18.05.10 |
Maybe something like a Proctacanthus sp. ?
Greetings, Reinoud Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/ https://www.nev.nl/diptera/ |
Eric Fisher |
Posted on 10-03-2017 23:05
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Member Location: California Posts: 435 Joined: 19.05.06 |
This is a female Lochmorhynchus sp. -- very much like a Proctacanthus... Cheers, Eric |
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Quaedfliegh |
Posted on 11-03-2017 13:47
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Member Location: Tilburg Netherlands Posts: 2208 Joined: 18.05.10 |
Hello Eric. How do you separate these genera?
Greetings, Reinoud Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/ https://www.nev.nl/diptera/ |
Eric Fisher |
Posted on 11-03-2017 20:48
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Member Location: California Posts: 435 Joined: 19.05.06 |
Hi Reinoud, Both genera are in the 'Apocleine' group of Asilinae (w/o anatergal setae); distinctive, as both w/ r4 & r5 veins ending in costa above tip of wing. Lochmorhynchus ovipositor w/ apical pair of flap-like appendages, no spines; restricted to so. S. Amer. (Argentina & Chile). Proctacanthus (+ Taurhynchus, Eccritosia & Proctacanthella) have apical cluster of spines on ovipositor, are widespread in Americas. Cheers, Eric Edited by Eric Fisher on 11-03-2017 20:49 |
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Quaedfliegh |
Posted on 12-03-2017 04:28
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Member Location: Tilburg Netherlands Posts: 2208 Joined: 18.05.10 |
Thank you Eric!
Greetings, Reinoud Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/ https://www.nev.nl/diptera/ |
jorgelg21 |
Posted on 13-03-2017 17:52
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Member Location: Posts: 2 Joined: 10.03.17 |
Muchas gracias a todos por sus respuestas e información!!!!! saludos!
Edited by jorgelg21 on 13-03-2017 17:55 |
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