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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 09-08-2007 13:10
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 Member Location: Portugal Posts: 3123 Joined: 19.06.07 |
I found this mantid and I hope you can help me identify it. Thanks locality: Montesinho, Portugal date: 2007/08/03  
Edited by Rui Andrade on 16-11-2007 20:39 |
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| Isidro |
Posted on 09-08-2007 14:47
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2076 Joined: 26.04.07 |
Iris oratoria, I think. But a view o the posterior wings will make the identification 100% sure. And remember the rules of the forum... If you said the size, we can be think in Iris or in Ameles... the pronotum looks too short for an Iris but can be viewed from a frontal angle... |
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 09-08-2007 23:52
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Member Location: Portugal Posts: 3123 Joined: 19.06.07 |
Thank you Isidro. I don't have photos of the posterior wings  . Once I saw a female of I. oratoria and it looked quite different (wings were very short) but I never saw a male.I don't know exactly the size of the mantid in the photo but it was much smaller than the female of I. oratoria. Does anyone else have any opinion? |
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| Isidro |
Posted on 10-08-2007 00:14
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2076 Joined: 26.04.07 |
In the male I. oratoria the wings are longer than abdomen. If it's much smaller, it was a male Ameles sp, without doubt. But this genus is difficult... I can't distinguish the various Iberian species, such as A. spallanziana, decolor, assoi, africana, nana, picteti... |
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| criatura |
Posted on 19-01-2009 16:17
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Member Location: Posts: 2 Joined: 10.11.08 |
Ameles spallanzania (adult male). Making identification very difficult especially with the males. The head shape and also that of the pronotum are important areas to study to help in identification. Regards JR |
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 25-01-2009 04:08
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Member Location: Portugal Posts: 3123 Joined: 19.06.07 |
Thank you so much ! |
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