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Bulgarian big Machimus
clovis
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Posted on 02-01-2017 19:11
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Hi,

I found this mâle in central Bulgaria.
I am tempted to make it a Machimus setibarbus, but I found out M modestus has similar genitalia (looking at this picture: http://www.diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=34957) and couldn't find more information about the latter.
What do you think? Do you know how to differentiate those two species?

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos176/big/markovo_juillet_.jpg
clovis : Bulgarie : Plovdiv : 00000 : 09/07/2013
Altitude : 439 m - Taille : 18 mm
Réf. : 176395
www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos176/big/markovo_juillet_i.jpg
clovis : Bulgarie : Plovdiv : 00000 : 09/07/2013
Altitude : 439 m - Taille : 18 mm
Réf. : 176396


I caught this specimen if more informations are needed, but specimen is in bad condition.
Edited by clovis on 02-01-2017 19:12
 
Quaedfliegh
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Posted on 04-01-2017 20:12
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The whole genus needs a revision and in particular this group. Medium to very large species with black legs. caliginosus, cyanopus, (intermedius), modestus, setibarbus, thoracicus. Because this last one has white hair on the frons (according to Engel 1930) this one could be that species. But i am afraid we can't be sure. Species in the link probably belongs to another group, annulipes etc (because of the red base of the tibiae..)
Greetings,

Reinoud

Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/

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Posted on 06-01-2017 22:02
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Ah, so bad Sad
Then I'll wait for a revision then.

Many thanks!
 
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I hope you are very patient SmileWinkFrownCool I wrote genus but meant genera ie Tolmerus, Neoepitriptus,maybe more...... It is an immense task to check all literature, type specimens spread around....etc....Shock You need time......... more people interested?????
Edited by Quaedfliegh on 07-01-2017 02:18
Greetings,

Reinoud

Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/

https://www.nev.nl/diptera/
 
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Posted on 13-01-2017 22:51
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Well, let's see that in 20 years then Smile Frown
Sure you don't want to do it? Cool
 
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I would like to help anyone who would start the project.Cool
Greetings,

Reinoud

Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/

https://www.nev.nl/diptera/
 
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