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 Glossy Muscidae. Probably Neomyia nudussima (Was Orthellia)
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| jonrichfield |
Posted on 29-01-2016 15:52
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 Member Location: Somerset West South Africa Posts: 87 Joined: 04.09.14 |
A friend is stuck, and so am I. Could anyone do a kindly ID please. It is a "small" (I interpret that as probably 2mm to 5mm length) fly that showed up at a light. The location is at Danielskuil in the Northern Cape in South Africa. Google earth's decimal coordinates are about -28.2, +23.55 Someone proposed Muscidae, and I cannot argue, but I have never seen such a decorative Muscid. Remarks welcomed with the usual respect and gratitude Jon jonrichfield attached the following image:  [188.37Kb] Edited by jonrichfield on 23-02-2016 16:30 Scientists often display a human failing: whenever they get hold of some new bit of truth, they decide it is the whole truth. GG Simpson |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 29-01-2016 20:03
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9459 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Probably Neomyiia nudussima
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| jonrichfield |
Posted on 30-01-2016 10:07
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Member Location: Somerset West South Africa Posts: 87 Joined: 04.09.14 |
Thank you Nikita. I am not familiar with Neomyiia nudussima and I cannot find much material on the species. I notice that most of the texts I can find spell it Neomyia; do you happen to have a definitive source? Edited by jonrichfield on 30-01-2016 10:09 Scientists often display a human failing: whenever they get hold of some new bit of truth, they decide it is the whole truth. GG Simpson |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 30-01-2016 14:51
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9459 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Sorry, my misprint, correct is Neomyia. The previous name of this genus was Orthellia.
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| jonrichfield |
Posted on 30-01-2016 20:25
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Member Location: Somerset West South Africa Posts: 87 Joined: 04.09.14 |
Ah, thanks Nikita. Someone at this end had suggested Orthellia, but without suggesting the actual species.
Scientists often display a human failing: whenever they get hold of some new bit of truth, they decide it is the whole truth. GG Simpson |
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| jonrichfield |
Posted on 31-01-2016 20:45
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Member Location: Somerset West South Africa Posts: 87 Joined: 04.09.14 |
Nikita Vikhrev wrote: ... Neomyia. ... Nikita, thank you for your efforts so far, and sorry to be a pain, but I made an inquiry and got a size estimate of of 3 to 4 mm, based on a count of the threads in the fabric. I am not familiar with Neomyia nudissima ; do you think that is a plausible size? Also, such pictures as I could find of (alleged) Neomyia showed no obvious dark areas, whereas my source confirmed that the live specimen did actually have such markings. Any comments would be welcome, either from you or anyone else. Scientists often display a human failing: whenever they get hold of some new bit of truth, they decide it is the whole truth. GG Simpson |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 02-02-2016 00:25
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 Super Administrator Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 10423 Joined: 22.10.10 |
Here is a description: https://books.goo...;lpg=PA162. |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 02-02-2016 14:21
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9459 Joined: 24.05.05 |
I'm not insist on Neomyia nudussima by photo. N. nudussima is common and small and scutal chaetotaxy on photo fits it. But there are a lot of other possibilities in Africa, for example, Pyrellia.
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| jonrichfield |
Posted on 23-02-2016 16:27
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Member Location: Somerset West South Africa Posts: 87 Joined: 04.09.14 |
Thank you John and thank you Nikita. I reckon Neomyia nudussima will do for our purposes. I'll alter the title accordingly. Scientists often display a human failing: whenever they get hold of some new bit of truth, they decide it is the whole truth. GG Simpson |
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