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Dysmachus? From Hungary
piros
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Posted on 19-12-2015 16:34
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Found on 19-05-2013, near Tatárszentgyörgy, about 45 km S-E of Budapest, in a lush meadow.
Is it possible to say something about ist identity?
Thank for any help in advanve!
Greetings,
Henrik
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Hi, Henrik

I only can confirm it is Dysmachus sp. indeed. And a female. I shall try to go further, but I need to check for that. In the meanwhile, Reinoud or somebody else might be able to say more... Good luck! Wink
 
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Thanks a lot, Piluca! I'll wait...

Have you seen the thread about an Amictus from Rhodes? Wink

http://diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=70996

Kind regards,
Henrik
 
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Of the Dysmachus sp known from Hungary, I could exclude several, based on pictures in the Internet (even though it is risky to do so...) The remaining two are D. bimucronatus and D. cohleatus. Of these, D. cochleatus is the more likely candidate, since the other appears to prefer rather warm and dry habitats.
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piros wrote:
Have you seen the thread about an Amictus from Rhodes? Wink

http://diptera.in...d_id=70996



No, I haven't!! Going to have a look after working on this one Wink

About the Dysmachus, female genitalia of D. bimucronatus looks nothing like the one of your fly and D. cochleatus is very similar, which is a big help! Wink
 
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Thanks a lot, I really appreciate your help and interest!
It should be D. cochleatus then, I can't really see other possibilities, especially since this sp. was quite frequent at the place, so unlikely to be something "exotic" for the country Smile
Kind regards,
Henrik
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Nice to see this one... besides the fact that the ovipositor looks different, D. bimucronatus has entirely black legs. Another option would be D. bifurcus (also red based tibiae and present in Hungary)which has a similar ovipositor but still different! D. cochleatus is your best option! Still, i would add a cf until you have a male with it.
Greetings,

Reinoud

Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/

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Thank you for your input! I found pictures of femele D. bifurcus, but thought is was different...
Kind regards,
Henrik
 
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