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 Psila sp (Psilidae)
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| crex |
Posted on 24-06-2007 17:14
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 Member Location: Sweden Posts: 1996 Joined: 22.05.06 |
Location: Near Stockholm, Sweden Date: 2007-JUN-24 Habitat: Park. In the shadows. Can't find a similar in the gallery. At first I thought the red markings was something wrong with the individual, but I found another similar fly about 100 metres away. No anterior photo. Individual 1 Edit: Changed subject (Orange fly) crex attached the following image:  [153.32Kb] Edited by crex on 25-06-2007 06:06 |
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| crex |
Posted on 24-06-2007 17:15
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Member Location: Sweden Posts: 1996 Joined: 22.05.06 |
Individual 2 (dorsal)
crex attached the following image:  [123.02Kb] |
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| crex |
Posted on 24-06-2007 17:18
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Member Location: Sweden Posts: 1996 Joined: 22.05.06 |
Individual 2 (lateral, almost)
crex attached the following image:  [166.75Kb] |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 24-06-2007 17:23
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 Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
Psilidae, Psila ? Regards. Stephane. |
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| crex |
Posted on 24-06-2007 17:33
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Member Location: Sweden Posts: 1996 Joined: 22.05.06 |
Ahh, didn't realize Psilidae could be that big. I think this was the size of Scatophaga stercoraria ... Thanks again Stephane! |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 24-06-2007 17:40
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
no.. psilidae are almost bare... Scathophagidae usually has many microtrichia.  |
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| crex |
Posted on 24-06-2007 17:44
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Member Location: Sweden Posts: 1996 Joined: 22.05.06 |
Ehh, well, I was talking about the size. Nothing else  |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 24-06-2007 23:02
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 Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
Psila sp. (it should be possible to tell the species, but I don't remember which one has a black spot at the base of arista  )
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| Darwyn Sumner |
Posted on 08-07-2007 21:14
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 Member Location: UK Posts: 147 Joined: 19.02.05 |
We've only two Psila in our British list. in P.fimetaria there is a darkened area on the third antennal segment surrounding the base of the arista. This is not present in P.merdaria. Do watch out for others, though. Shatalkin (Russian) describes P.andreji, P.hexachaeta, P.iwasai, P.kovalevi, P.megacephala, P.silacruscula, P.musiva & P.negrobovi. Presumably these things might get out of Russia. I would be grateful for anyone who would be prepared to translate this paper into English - perhaps then we can begin to keep a proper eye out for them. |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 09-07-2007 14:22
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9443 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Being Russian I still quite aggree with Darwyn that it isn't good idea to write scientific articles on Russian (Chinese, Franch....) I'll contact with Anatoly Shatalkin and make this article available in month or 2. Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Darwyn Sumner |
Posted on 09-07-2007 20:52
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Member Location: UK Posts: 147 Joined: 19.02.05 |
Thanks very much for that offer, Nikita. I'm sure you know which articles I mean (and perhaps you know of more) but just in case, here's a list of Anatoly Shatalkin's articles that I have referenced within my interest groups of Nerioidea & Diopsoidea (I run the UK recording scheme for them): Shatalkin, A.I.. 1995(1994) Palaearctic species of Pseudopomyzidae (Diptera). Russian Entomol. J.. 3 p.129-145 Shatalkin, A.I.. 1996 Psila sp.. . p.880-884 Shatalkin, A.I.. 1981 Clareola crassula sp. n. (Pipunculidae) and Strongylophthalmyia raricornis sp. n. (Strongylophthalmyiidae), new peculiar Diptera from USSR.. Zool. Zh.. 60 p.791-793 Shatalkin, A.I.. 1993 On the taxonomy of the flies of the family Strongylophthalmyiidae (Diptera). Zool. Zh.. 72 p.124-131 Shatalkin, A.I.. 1989 Notes on the palaearctic Psilidae (Diptera). Archives Zool. Mus. Moscow State Univ.. 27 p.88-113 Shatalkin, A.I.. 1995(1994) Palaearctic species of Pseudopomyzidae (Diptera). Russian Entomol. J.. 3 p.129-145 The species I listed in the above thread are spread over 2 separate papers, of which I have photocopies. Please forgive my ignorance of the Russian language, I did buy a dictionary but have come to the conclusion that one needs to be very skilled in both languages to translate sensibly. Darwyn |
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