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| Isidro |
Posted on 24-06-2007 13:35
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2070 Joined: 26.04.07 |
Yesterday at Pe?aflor, Aragon, Spain, into a pine (Pinus halepensis) repoblation forest, between fields (mature wheat fields), this big (maybe 30 mm or some more) robberfly arrives with a recently hunted cicada. Mediterranean robberflies are difficul, as I see, but maybe can be identified. The ID of the cicada will be also very welcome if it's possible.   There is the wing venation  There is the face  Thanks. Regards 
Edited by Isidro on 24-06-2007 13:36 |
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| Isidro |
Posted on 28-06-2007 08:40
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2070 Joined: 26.04.07 |
Any answer? 
Edited by Isidro on 28-06-2007 08:41 |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 28-06-2007 10:25
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 Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
I am hardly an expert in this group, but the very long ovipositor and the bent postocular hairs reming me of Neoitamus.
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| Isidro |
Posted on 28-06-2007 14:26
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2070 Joined: 26.04.07 |
Thanks Kahis!!! You are the best! Now, I will wait if anyone is sure of the genus and even if anyone can suppose a species... |
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| Isidro |
Posted on 28-06-2007 14:28
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2070 Joined: 26.04.07 |
Oh, I forget this: I have the list of all animals and plants of Monegros region, where is photographed this robberfly. No Neoitamus in the list, but this list can be incomplete. The list includes next species: Antiphrisson trifarius Asilus barbarus Dioctra gagates Holopogon venustus Lasiopogon montanus Leptogaster subtilis Loewinella virescens Machimus pilipes Neomochtherus pallipes Stichopogon scaliger |
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| Dysmachus |
Posted on 01-07-2007 17:13
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 Member Location: Germany Posts: 321 Joined: 15.03.06 |
I think that this isn't a species of Neoitamus. There are two other genera, which have bigger species, in the Mediterranean region: Astochia and Promachus. Unfortunately, there are no records from Spain from both. Promachus is widely distributed (also on the Canary Islands), but unknown to Spain. Usually, robber flies are common and therefore you have to collect some specimens and send them to a specialist. The fauna of the Iberian peninsula is insufficient revised. Yours
Edited by Dysmachus on 01-07-2007 17:13 |
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| Isidro |
Posted on 01-07-2007 23:59
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2070 Joined: 26.04.07 |
Thanks Dysmachus! If the best expert in robberflies don't know it... well, it's impossible... I've seen giant Promachus (I think) in Taiwan, I posted here but novody knew it. ?Anyone of my list can be this one? |
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| Isidro |
Posted on 08-09-2008 14:55
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2070 Joined: 26.04.07 |
Identified as Neoitamus sp. as a sure diagnostic by Miguel Carles-Tolr?. Only cited in Spain N. cyanurus and N. socius. Which of the two is it? |
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