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 Unknown --> Paraplatypeza atra or P. bicincta
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| gertvanheghe |
Posted on 14-09-2015 06:48
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Member Location: Belgium Posts: 1722 Joined: 20.05.12 |
    http://waarneming.../108645710 Thank you, Gert Edited by gertvanheghe on 16-09-2015 23:55 |
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| Sundew |
Posted on 14-09-2015 11:24
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 Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3916 Joined: 28.07.07 |
A male of Platypezidae, and I have a guess: Agathomyia antennata. In the first pic I think I see a long basoventral seta on the first tarsomere of the middle leg, which points to this species. However, this is in no case an absolutely certain identification! Regards, Sundew |
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| gertvanheghe |
Posted on 14-09-2015 20:30
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Member Location: Belgium Posts: 1722 Joined: 20.05.12 |
Thank you, Sundew. Just curious, but doesn't it also look a lot like Paraplatypeza atra? Best regards, Gert |
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| Sundew |
Posted on 15-09-2015 02:37
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Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3916 Joined: 28.07.07 |
Now we have a second guess! The pictures do not show the details clearly. Paraplatypeza and Agathomyia differ in wing venation. So do the wings of your fly look like these: http://www.dipter...d_id=52086 or these: http://www.dipter...d_id=22116? Is there a tuft of bristles on the frons and grey dusting of tergite 6? It is difficult to decide... Our expert Michal Tkoc would perhaps know! I better withdraw from the discussion  |
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| gertvanheghe |
Posted on 15-09-2015 07:44
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Member Location: Belgium Posts: 1722 Joined: 20.05.12 |
I've added a 4th picture that hopefully shows just a little better the wing venation. Based on that, and with the 2 links that you supplied, I tend to think it is Paraplatypeza atra indeed. |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 15-09-2015 12:21
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19365 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Agathomyia are also more slender than this.
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| gertvanheghe |
Posted on 15-09-2015 21:07
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Member Location: Belgium Posts: 1722 Joined: 20.05.12 |
Thanks, Paul. |
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| Menno Reemer |
Posted on 16-09-2015 09:21
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Member Location: Posts: 343 Joined: 10.06.04 |
Yes, this is Paraplatypeza, based on wing venation and the small tuft of setae on the frons. However, based on these images I cannot decide between P. atra and P. bicincta. The latter is not included in checklists of Belgian and Dutch platypezids, but I have recently found it on several localities in the Netherlands (sometimes together with P. atra). |
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| gertvanheghe |
Posted on 16-09-2015 23:59
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Member Location: Belgium Posts: 1722 Joined: 20.05.12 |
That's interesting! P. bicincta is on the active species list of Waarneming.nl but not on Waarnemingen.be. Thanks for the info, Gert |
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