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fly with shiny dark pronotum > supposedly Cheilosia vernalis
Lennart Bendixen
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Posted on 16-01-2015 00:16
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Hi,

is this fly identifiable? Or at least its family?

Thank you!

Greetings,

Lennart

2015-09-17, 3 p.m., Germany, Schleswig-Holstein, Mohrkirch, wild meadow
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piros
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Posted on 16-01-2015 02:46
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Looks like Cheilosia sp, (female) Syrphidae.
Best regards,
Henrik
 
Lennart Bendixen
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Hi Henrik,
oh yes, that's possible...thank you! I didn't even think of Syrphidae, but maybe because the venation is kind of hidden in this picture.
Maybe someone can put this thread into the Syrph subforum?
Kind regards,
Lennart
Edited by Lennart Bendixen on 18-01-2015 21:44
 
Lukasz Mielczarek
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Looks like Cheilosia vernalis.

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Lukasz
 
Lennart Bendixen
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Thank you, Lukasz! May I ask you what makes you see that? (I don't know a thing about Cheilosia except that they're hard to identify...)
Greetings,
Lennart
 
Lukasz Mielczarek
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Dear Lennart,
You are right that Cheilosia is very problematic genus in identification. In the end of summer and during autumn in Central Europe only few Cheilosia species have flight period. We can observe bare eyes species of pagana group (longula, scutellata, soror, pagana) and C. vernalis. I think it is female of C. vernalis because of hairy eyes, bristles on the scutellum and very dark hind tibia.

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Lukasz
Edited by Lukasz Mielczarek on 21-01-2015 14:47
 
Lennart Bendixen
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Posted on 21-01-2015 18:59
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Hi Lukasz,
thank you very much for that detailed information! Makes your supposition quite plausible (and I learned something new again...).
Best wishes,
Lennart
 
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