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 Empididae - Clinoceridae - Clinocera stagnalis
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 22-05-2007 22:11
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Hi * locality - Silgueiros - Viseu - PORTUGAL * date - 2007.05. * size - 3-4 mm (small fly) wings almost 2x the body's size * habitat - near river * substrate - ?? EDIT ---> Title changed from "Mystery fly.. another" to "Empididae - Clinocera sp." and finally to "Empididae - Clinoceridae - Clinocera stagnalis" jorgemotalmeida attached the following image:  [181.08Kb] Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 23-05-2007 23:29 |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 22-05-2007 22:12
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
other view. i have almost sure that this is a new family for me.
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 22-05-2007 22:13
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
other...
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 22-05-2007 22:24
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9339 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Empididae, Clinocerinae...
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 22-05-2007 22:36
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
empidid --- venation wing fits well, but strange.. long proboscis is absent.  (perhaps broken, but it is unusual because all empidids I caught never broke their proboscis. ) |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 23-05-2007 06:32
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19368 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Long proboscis (really long that is) is really only found in Empidinae (in Europe). Other subfamilies have shorter probosces, those in Clinocerinae possibly the shortest.
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| igor |
Posted on 23-05-2007 08:05
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Member Location: Posts: 294 Joined: 23.11.06 |
Hi Paul, There are a few exceptions in Clinocerinae, e.g. Hypenella, but they are not from Europe. All the best, Igor  |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 23-05-2007 08:22
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19368 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Now you understand why I included the '(in Europe)'. 
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| igor |
Posted on 23-05-2007 08:36
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Member Location: Posts: 294 Joined: 23.11.06 |
ok, ok |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 23-05-2007 11:18
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
ok. And what about possible genus? |
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| igor |
Posted on 23-05-2007 11:48
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Member Location: Posts: 294 Joined: 23.11.06 |
Sorry Clinocera sp. |
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| Sinclair |
Posted on 23-05-2007 22:28
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This is Clinocera stagnalis. It is holarctic in distribution, found in a variety of habitats and appears to have a wide temperature tollerance. Brad Sinclair |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 23-05-2007 22:39
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 Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
Whoa, yet another guru has joined the fray.  Welcome to the forum and thanks for the authoritative answer. Kahis |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 23-05-2007 23:28
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
And this species is new for mainland Portugal. Thank you. May I ask which are the definitive characters for C. staganalis that we can see in these photos? Thank you again. Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 23-05-2007 23:31 |
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