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Ichneumon for ID, please
Martin Cooper
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Posted on 09-09-2013 18:59
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Small ichneumon fly - 6 mm from top of head to end of body - found dead in a jar which contained an olive leaf. The leaf was folded over and a pupa had been attached in the fold. The insect must have emereged from the pupa. The olive tree was growing on my patio here in Ipswich, East Suffolk, England (Lat/Lng: 52.061168, 1.159024). Leaf found in July, dead insect found in September. I have never worked with such a small insect before and, as you will see in some of the photos, I made a mess of pinning it.

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Nice photos Martin but you really need a specialist forum. Try posting to the 'Hymenopterist's Forum' Facebook group or to the HymIS website. Getting to subfamily is difficult ... to species takes expertise that only a handful of people have. Gavin Broad at the NHM is one such person.
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Thanks Chris, I've applied to join HymIS but haven't heard back from them yet. I'll check out the Facebook group.

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Gavin Broad's key to subfamilies may help: http://www.brc.ac...ly_key.pdf.
 
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Thanks John. I've grabbed that key as well. I assume it is for UK species, but with that in mind I'll still try it out on Australian ichneumonids. A bit on knowledge should rub off if nothing else.
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Thanks John. I've already tried to use that key but but haven't been able to come to a convincing ID. I've now been accepted to HymIS and started a thread there: http://www.forum....mp;t=11224.

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This is Itoplectis alternans female.
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