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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 25-07-2005 21:44
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9334 Joined: 24.05.05 |
It seems to me that this fly is not Urophora cardui. This one was less (4-5mm). Moscow region, july.
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| John Smit |
Posted on 28-07-2005 14:12
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 Member Location: Utrecht Posts: 565 Joined: 05.10.04 |
Dear Nikita, You 're absolutely right! It's not Urophora cardui, which has a different wing-pattern. The species with the kind of wing-pattern as photographed are abundant in the Palearctic, and very difficult to identify. To be sure you should extract the aculeus of the female and look at its apex, the last 0,1 mm! One of the most common species, at least here in Europe, with this kind of wing-pattern is U. solstitialis. But since I can't have a look at the aculeus, you'll never be sure about it. Best wishes, John Smit |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 31-07-2005 10:53
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9334 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Thank you John. But one more question. How did you distinguish genus Urophora from Rhagoletis ?
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| John Smit |
Posted on 05-08-2005 10:51
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Member Location: Utrecht Posts: 565 Joined: 05.10.04 |
Hi Nikita, By sight!  There is a marked difference, but you'll need a good magnification of the wingbase. The genus Urophora belongs to the subfamily Myopitinae which is characterised by the convex closed Anal cel, whereas all other subfamilies have a more or less pronounced triangular distal extension at the bottom side of the anal cel. But as I said you'll need a good magnification of the wingbase, in your picture here it's impossible to tell. Best wishes, John |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 07-08-2005 14:32
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9334 Joined: 24.05.05 |
John, thank you for your patient explanation. Photografers who send me images on www.Rosfoto.ru and me myself thought that a fly with such unusual wing colour have to be easyly identified till species. If I know the limit of my current knowledge - it is a good step forward too. So, thank you once more. Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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