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 Phytomyza ilicis ?
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| Robert Heemskerk |
Posted on 14-01-2007 18:34
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 Member Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands Posts: 2082 Joined: 17.10.05 |
hello flyforum, I found this fly on a leave of Ilex aquifolium. There where a lot of mines in these leaves and I was wondering if this fly is Phytomyza ilicis? Robert Heemskerk Robert Heemskerk attached the following image:  [74.38Kb] |
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| Robert Heemskerk |
Posted on 14-01-2007 18:36
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Member Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands Posts: 2082 Joined: 17.10.05 |
no good picture, but you can see some typical wings.
Robert Heemskerk attached the following image:  [84.91Kb] Edited by Robert Heemskerk on 14-01-2007 18:36 |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 14-01-2007 19:41
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Hi Robert - not a fly, but a psocopteran
Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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| Robert Heemskerk |
Posted on 14-01-2007 20:03
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Member Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands Posts: 2082 Joined: 17.10.05 |
Ok!, thank you very much! psocoptera is not a fly  , I am sorry. . |
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| Toby |
Posted on 14-01-2007 22:05
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 Member Location: SW LONDON Posts: 550 Joined: 12.01.07 |
some kind of Bark Louse I think? |
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| Robert Heemskerk |
Posted on 14-01-2007 23:37
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Member Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands Posts: 2082 Joined: 17.10.05 |
Yes, an insect of the family Coccidae, which infests the bark of trees and vines. (it's in the wrong Forum, Other insects is the place to be I think..) Edited by Robert Heemskerk on 14-01-2007 23:38 |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 14-01-2007 23:48
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19363 Joined: 11.05.04 |
No, bark louse is not Coccoidea (scales) but Psocoptera. And this is indeed a psocopteran.
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| Robert Heemskerk |
Posted on 15-01-2007 00:19
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Member Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands Posts: 2082 Joined: 17.10.05 |
Ok!, I'll stop giving wrong information.. Is psocopteran hetzelfde als Psocoptera sp.? of is het meer een onderverdeling van de soort? Hier kan ik zelf niets over vinden.. (I cannot find information between Psocoptera sp. and Psocopteran) |
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 15-01-2007 00:50
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 Member Location: Waalwijk, The Netherlands Posts: 2136 Joined: 24.07.04 |
Hi Robert, Although it is difficult to say after your photo of this specimen (since it is not very clear  ), the wing markings could indicate your specimen might belong to Ectopsocus briggsi (with very much reservation  ). This is a rather common species of the order Psocoptera, family Ectopsocidae.Jan Willem |
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| Robert Heemskerk |
Posted on 15-01-2007 14:44
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Member Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands Posts: 2082 Joined: 17.10.05 |
Thank you Jan Willem for your suggestion! I'll name it Psocoptera sp. and will look better to the wing markings next time.. robert heemskerk |
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| Louis Boumans |
Posted on 16-01-2007 02:12
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Member Location: NO Oslo Posts: 262 Joined: 09.06.04 |
By the way, Robert, if you want to see Phytomyza ilicis, you can put a branch with some infested leaves in a jar with water (e.g. wet tissue), and some netting on top (e.g. ladies' stockings). I tried this once and they came out end of April. |
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| Robert Heemskerk |
Posted on 16-01-2007 12:52
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Member Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands Posts: 2082 Joined: 17.10.05 |
I'll make a nice jar for the Phytomyza ilicis.. thanks for the suggestion! |
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