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 Face to face ? fly vs. spider
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| Martin Suvak |
Posted on 27-12-2006 12:48
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Member Location: Slovakia Posts: 51 Joined: 02.11.06 |
Hello, Please, can comeone help me to identify this fly (or even spider)? Size: cca 2.5 mm? Habitat: light forest with oaks, cherries and black locusts Slovakia, Kosice, 300 m a s.l., July 2005 Spider prey is probably Formica sanguinea. The fly seems to be very impertinent, it feeds literally from spider mouth,  . The situation is also here: http://www.fotoaparat.cz/index.php?r=25&rp=209911&gal=photo Thanks for any ideas. Martin Martin Suvak attached the following image:  [101.18Kb] |
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| Martin Suvak |
Posted on 27-12-2006 12:49
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Member Location: Slovakia Posts: 51 Joined: 02.11.06 |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 27-12-2006 13:05
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
The fly is a chloropid of the genus Tricimba. I have seen such behaviour in Desmometopa of the Milichiidae, but never in Chloropidae.
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| Martin Suvak |
Posted on 27-12-2006 13:34
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Member Location: Slovakia Posts: 51 Joined: 02.11.06 |
Thaks a lot Paul! I have also seen various flies in the vicinity of spiders with prey but this situation was very strange for me. In my photos there is probably also Desmometopa sp. on a honeybee attacked by the wasp Vespula germanica - I will sent it later. Martin |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 27-12-2006 15:17
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Desmometopa are very 'fond' of honeybee preys of spiders, robberflies and reduviid bugs.
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| Martin Suvak |
Posted on 28-12-2006 13:57
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Member Location: Slovakia Posts: 51 Joined: 02.11.06 |
Thank you Paul for additional information. I am sending a Desmometopa (as I guess) in next thread. Martin |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 28-12-2006 18:56
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 Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14070 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello! Because nobody mentioned the spider: it's a crab spider (Thomisiidae) of genus Xysticus. Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Lukasz Mielczarek |
Posted on 28-12-2006 19:21
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 Member Location: Poland, Krakow Posts: 498 Joined: 27.09.06 |
Hello! I seen very similar situation. Lukasz Mielczarek attached the following image:  [167.94Kb] |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 28-12-2006 22:42
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
That is Desmometope all right.
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| crex |
Posted on 29-12-2006 07:29
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 Member Location: Sweden Posts: 1996 Joined: 22.05.06 |
Mielczarek wrote: Hello! I seen very similar situation. The spider is Misumena vatia, I think. |
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| Lukasz Mielczarek |
Posted on 29-12-2006 10:31
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Member Location: Poland, Krakow Posts: 498 Joined: 27.09.06 |
Yes. The spider of the year 2006 |
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| Martin Suvak |
Posted on 29-12-2006 10:53
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Member Location: Slovakia Posts: 51 Joined: 02.11.06 |
Juergen, thanks for spider identification! To Mielczarek: Very interesting photo, poor spider, . Martin |
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